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Cheery Cluck

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In the past I have had a speckled hen who slowly died. Her symptums were basically the same as if she were starving herself. Every morning when I fed the chickens she would gulp down twice as much as the others but whenever I held her I could feel only her bones. She was eating normally but looked like she was starving. She died of it and I figured that it was something to do with her. Now I have another chicken with the same symptums and I have no idea what to do. Please help! She's in a really bad state.
 
Hi and welcome to BYC.

Do a search on here for worms. They may have parasites and there are various treatments.
 
Hello there. Could you help us to help you?

There's a post, the second one in this forum (A 'sticky' post). Could you read that and answer the questions for us? That would give us a better picture of "flock history". We'll probably ask more questions to hone in on something.

In the mean time, please also tell us if you've ever wormed the birds, and if you are able to find any mites/lice on them. (Check at night with a flashlight- and the light on. Mites often only come out at night in some types.)

Please answer each of the sticky's questions and then we'll go from there and try to help yo uhelp your flock.

Thank you!
 
I'm sorry. Being new to the whole thing I don't know what you want me to read. Where again?
I have never wormed them and yes they do have lice.
 
1) I know it's incredibly unhelpful but I'm not quite sure what breed she is. I got her from someone else and I'm not an expert. Looking at pictures on the breeds section here I think she is an Isa Brown, 5 years old with an undetermined wieght. Her wieght is not in the healthy range.
2) Walks around in pain, stiffly, eats alot of scratch, slow moving, reserved.
3) No sign of an injury that is bleeding or broken. No trauma.
4) I had a chicken who died and had the same symptums. Maybe it was transmitted?
5) Has been eating alot of normal scratch. Drinking regular amounts of water.
6) Haven't noticed her pooping
7) Nothing done so far
8) I'd like to treat the illness myself if I can
10) Two nice airated hen housed with straw. There is alot of poop in the coops though.
That's all I really know about it.
 
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Well that sounds like bad news, but it's actually good news because we can "fix" that!

Lice can make a bird anemic and cause them to lose weight. It's probably not the only thing, but it's the major thing now.

First, you need to rid them of the lice. To do so, you must treat not only the birds but also the premises - and retreat the bird in 7 days (and sometimes yet again in another 7 days). Personally, I use poultry dust on everything. It's permethrins which are safe for poultry, more safe than the sevin dusts. Dust the chicken thoroughly, making sure to get the vent area and back of neck particularly. A parmesan shaker works well for this. Another poster said to put it in a knee-high stocking (tied at the top) and use that to dust them. Wear a dust mask.

Scrape the bedding in the coop to one side - dust - replace the bedding, dust the top, stir in.

You can make a white-wash of poultry dust and water (make it thin) and paint on the wood making sure to get in the cracks of the wood. (You'll be helping prevent mite outbursts that way for the future.)

The birds are emaciated and anemic. They'll need corrective nutrition and a follow up of good nutrition to become thrifty again.

First, I do have to say that birds need a vitamin/mineral package and scratch is intended as a treat to be used at 10% of less of the diet. I would recommend integrating a complete feed (layer for example) into their diet and using the scratch in the afternoons so that they eat their layer. They might have been less apt to go down quickly with more nutrition, but they're 5 years old so they've had good care.

Right now they need concentrated nutrition to rebuild their blood. I'd recommend the pellets or crumbles, a boiled egg mashed into yogurt - get them to eat that. If you can buy some vitamins, use those. If it's one chicken alone, you can give here baby vitamins (Enfamil polyvisol non-iron - 3 drops in the side of the beak for a week then taper off.) If more than one, treat the whole flock.

It might be best to just remove the bedding you have now, put the dust down, and put new bedding (dusted) in.

I'd also consider worming them. Use Wazine (piperazine 17%) and then either repeat in 2 weeks, or use ivermectin or levamisole at that time as a follow up. Then you can do twice yearly to great effect.

I'd work on the lice and nutrition first though - don't worm until she's gained weight, at least a week or two from now - preferably two.

The importance of the yogurt is to help them digest their foods more effeciently so that nutrition gets in them better. I think this will really help them.

Please let me know how it goes and we'll go from here when a week or so if you'd like?

Also please feel free to email me if you'd like to.
 
Thank you so much. I'll put this to the test.
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Please do! And please let me know via email how it goes. feedback is very important to me to keep suggesting things that actually work. To me, it's practical over technical. Some things may be said to work, but if they don't work often enough I won't recommend them unless there's nothing else to recommend (and then I'll say so).
 
Cheery Cluck,
I know this post is old, but wanted to post this info in case it's helpful to anyone else.

Your chickens may have an internal fungus caused by eating something moldy. This causes gradual death by starvation. A low-carb diet is critical in treating this, and other things also help. I have posted info on this at https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=278870&p=3

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course, your chickens may have been dealing with a different problem, but your description fit a fungal condition problem well.

I am sorry for the loss of your first hen--that had to have been very hard. I hope your second ill hen made it.
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