Helping Chicks Hatch? Information why or why not

[ShellyBear]

Yes chicks die in the eggs yet it deppens on the hatch and the way they are incubated, but I think the only time you should help is after 24 hours of pipping then you are not risking that the veins are still filled with blood and the chick has absorbed most of its yolk sack. Other than that if you open an egg to early you could kill that chick or risk it having issues. You can check the eggs if you relize that your humidity is low, but just moisten the egg, don't crack it open and let the chick dry out even more. people can sometimes have 100% hatch with out help while other can have lower with out without help.

 

[sourland]

Weak chicks/poor hatchers produce more weak chicks/poor hatchers. When dealing in animal breeding, the more poor traits you accept the more you have to deal with in the future.

 

[savannahRoos22]

Helping, sure. Busting open the shell of every pipper is pure idiocy. I can back my claim up too.

I haven't tested when the exact moment is. But many chicks or ducklings die in that same pip several hours later. Not immidiately! I completely agree that it would be idiocy.

 

[BantyChooks]

I haven't tested when the exact moment is. But many chicks or ducklings die in that same pip several hours later. Not immidiately! I completely agree that it would be idiocy.

Well, that seems to be what you're suggesting. If you wouldn't mind, would you edit your original wording, please? If newcomers see that post they might well dive into an assist and kill their chicks.

Still disagree with "many". I have had exactly two birds die after internal pip. One was because it got flipped and stuck, one other was a duck egg that quit for unknown reasons. I have been hatching for near two years. Not much, but there are many that have been hatching for much longer whose results agree.

 

[Smuvers Farm]

Weak chicks/poor hatchers produce more weak chicks/poor hatchers. When dealing in animal breeding, the more poor traits you accept the more you have to deal with in the future.

The point I wanted to make but couldn't put words to. Thanks!

 

[ShellyBear]

Not all chicks are the same, I had chicks hatch with days separate.

 

[savannahRoos22]

But consider this... A family incubating for the first time following a rule of no help at all.
They only have 4 eggs lets say. And they would happily care for a weak chick its entire life. We dont need to worry about weak animals reproducing weak offspring in this situation!

Every creature has importance, and I know you feel that way too.

 

[savannahRoos22]

Embryos are going to die, sure, but if, and I quote, "So many pippers die" then you ARE doing something wrong. Hatch rates in home eggs should hover close to or above 90%.

"So many pippers die" In the world!!!! In all the incubation projects combined. Not in my doings. That's great yours are 90% hatch rate!

 

[BantyChooks]

But consider this... A family incubating for the first time following a rule of no help at all.
They only have 4 eggs lets say. And they would happily care for a weak chick its entire life. We dont need to worry about weak animals reproducing weak offspring in this situation!

Every creature has importance, and I know you feel that way too.

Isn't a rule. It's an opinion.

Nobody here is bashing helping. What I object to is your wording (that you still have there, BTW) that encourages just pulling open shells of perfectly fine birds. Assisting is an art that bungling with is all too easy.

 

[savannahRoos22]

Yes chicks die in the eggs yet it deppens on the hatch and the way they are incubated, but I think the only time you should help is after 24 hours of pipping then you are not risking that the veins are still filled with blood and the chick has absorbed most of its yolk sack. Other than that if you open an egg to early you could kill that chick or risk it having issues. You can check the eggs if you relize that your humidity is low, but just moisten the egg, don't crack it open and let the chick dry out even more. people can sometimes have 100% hatch with out help while other can have lower with out without help.

Completely Agree.