Hen brooding or sick? Eggs facing up day 18 question & more

[WillyCx]

Hey all 2nd time I write here, other time I asked if there was ways to see if eggs were fertile day 1 without cracking and apparently not, but putting random eggs in I suddenly got 3 fertiles in the incubator I think.
one of them, from aug 22nd, I suppose is expected on sept 13. sept 8 today should be day 18 when I read that the egg should stop rotating, my incubator is supposed to stop rotating when a stick is not in the hole, & I think some still rotated last night except that one, might be okay. I'm not sure if the other 2 will hatch, one stop developing and the other might still be.. a lot of pictures and questiions so I didn't take pic of another egg.
Anyway, here's the eggs, first pic is the one closest to hatching, am afraid to mess with it much so the candling pic isn't good, but I was just wondering if it's facing up the correct way? I don't want it to be wrong and hatch in a bad way. I also assume on hatching day, I can just take it to its metal thing where they live in with the warm heat lamp all ready, I know I have to buy more chicks cause it can't be on its own & my flock is only 4 hens 1 rooster 2 ducks atm.

So now that the day 18 facing up question's out, something awful happened the other day, I had a 2nd rooster, his face was gone, standing up, I couldn't even take an image, had someone put him to sleep, we think a racoon came and ate his face and left, nothing else happened, don't think another animal could've done it. He had some disabilities before getting him a few months ago but he lived a good life here I woul say, he's the one I believe fertilized those eggs. But the mother Twilight, well, I changed their home immediately, was supposed to later on but I procrastinated cuz their homes were okay in this big yard, just not totally predator safe aside the fence, it used to be a storage but now a chicken coop, there's even a bathroom and not sure if it's a good idea for them to stay there, it's not working so no water or anything, it's just kinda strange looking and dunno what to use that room for.
So I put my whole flock there, they seemed to like it, but twilight not only crapped a whole lotta yolk when I went and checked at night, I don't know what that means or how it happened, but the next day now, she's sitting in the box where they shall lay, & I have this herb with good scent sprinkled that's supposed to make them like it and maybe become broody which I wanted, I don't know if that's really going on, she's not sitting on an egg, she doesn't look like she's in much pain, don't want to pick her up and bother but her bottom is just wet, might look weak, I don't know what she needs, but my mom freaked out about it, I didn't think it was a vet asap thing but maybe will consider, it seems like I have a lot to learn, but I only got chickens at the start of covid in June-July 2020, it's not my only hobby, but I love them, want to be sure the egg & hen are okay is what I came here for, cause this place looks like a great community to ask and help around, here's the images, and idk if this is much of an emergency/disease/injury bit I didn't know where else to post, bc I want that egg to hatch fine and it's coming fast, & the hen's health is concerning, she's very small for 2 years old, but has been eating good and wasn't acting like this prior, she would hang with cinammon the one in the yolk pic.

P.S. : the egg in the 3rd row is the one I'm wondering if it's facing correct way up for hatching, and I forgot to mention that other egg I pointed has some weird nasty spots outside, pretty sure they weren't there prior & grew, was wondering what that was. I learn a few new things once in a while and that's never come up.

 

[nuthatched]

Hi there.
You have a lot written so if I missed a question, let me know.
Can you pick up the eggs and candle them through the aircell? In a datk room preferably. the white one is sweating which means its rotting, you need to get rid of it before or explodes. temperature and humidity are you running in your incubator and have you calibrated it? Yes, remove the turner for lock down.
Your hen pooped a yolk, possibly because she had an egg break inside her, it's good you didn't pick her up. There's eggshells inside her and they'll have to be carefully removed so they don't cut her up inside.
There's no one to make a hen go broody, it's a hormone thing.
What do your birds eat?

 

[WillyCx]

Thank you for your reply
I called the vet and asked what they or I can do about the broken egg shell, they suggested I use my finger or they will with an xray for $50+100 or something.. seems a bit much for something like that. I could wait under 24 hrs as they're about to close anyway and see how things are, I've never thought of that and I think a finger would be too big and hurt, have glove but I'll need to know what I'm doing. The good news is she got up and started walking around, got her water she's drinking but ignored ham tortillas and lettuce which is some things I feed them.
They also like cat food a lot, grapes, that's most of their diet on top of some good quality chicken feed always there.
I'll take better pics of the eggs in a bit, only thing I really wondered about the egg is if it's sitting right side up if there's such a thing like I read on a 21 day incubate guide.
Thanks for letting me know that's rotten, that's too bad, it looks like somethings growing there but maybe it's not good. I assume and hope the other one is healthy.
I don't think I've calibrated anything, but it's around 55 humidity 100f been that way.

Pics of her now and well, if I have to dig for egg shells maybe I can do it if I have the right tools or something.

 

[WillyCx]

Man... it turns out what I thought was a good egg is probably bad too, has that sweat could explode. It just had veins and was growing, I had high hopes cause it'd be my first hatched egg. But, I just need a confirmation if it's a must throw in its condition, here's a pic, not very dark room as it's daylight but it does smell strange too. + an older pic of it when it looked healthy. My thermostat is from a bearded dragon I used to have, it seems to work okay I think, but I don't know how common it is to have a sweaty egg, could be doing something wrong. It's not often we see a fertile egg cause my rooster is more into the ducks.

 

[nuthatched]

Thank you for your reply
I called the vet and asked what they or I can do about the broken egg shell, they suggested I use my finger or they will with an xray for $50+100 or something.. seems a bit much for something like that. I could wait under 24 hrs as they're about to close anyway and see how things are, I've never thought of that and I think a finger would be too big and hurt, have glove but I'll need to know what I'm doing. The good news is she got up and started walking around, got her water she's drinking but ignored ham tortillas and lettuce which is some things I feed them.
They also like cat food a lot, grapes, that's most of their diet on top of some good quality chicken feed always there.
I'll take better pics of the eggs in a bit, only thing I really wondered about the egg is if it's sitting right side up if there's such a thing like I read on a 21 day incubate guide.
Thanks for letting me know that's rotten, that's too bad, it looks like somethings growing there but maybe it's not good. I assume and hope the other one is healthy.
I don't think I've calibrated anything, but it's around 55 humidity 100f been that way.

Pics of her now and well, if I have to dig for egg shells maybe I can do it if I have the right tools or something.

Your fingers are the best tools, though it's not fun. I'll try to find some info to help you.
You might want to cut out all the cat food and extras besides chicken pellets, having an egg break in a hen can be a sign of low calcium.
I'm not sure on the first egg, I'd give it a try, just on their sides is the right position. You'll need to boost humidity for lock down to about 65, if you can. The second egg only looks about a week old into development but it looks alive.

 

[WillyCx]

Your fingers are the best tools, though it's not fun. I'll try to find some info to help you.
You might want to cut out all the cat food and extras besides chicken pellets, having an egg break in a hen can be a sign of low calcium.
I'm not sure on the first egg, I'd give it a try, just on their sides is the right position. You'll need to boost humidity for lock down to about 65, if you can. The second egg only looks about a week old into development but it looks alive.

I know too much of anything isn't good, I forgot to say I give em tomatos often too, I've tried a handful of things but those I mentioned they seem to like more than others. They love bread but I hear it's not good, not sure about honey wheat, but very little sometimes, and not much cat food cause it's too much salt/some nutrient.
I don't know what gives calcium, but I have tons of Oyster shells for which I think is for helping part of that.
But she's normal again for now, I pulled out a thing sticking out without putting nothing in, she pooped a lot half way out, then i took out what looked like a saggy half a shell, was very gross.. but she seems to feel better and is going around.
I'll add more water for more humidity then, those last pics are the same egg, it's still possible to hatch? just a few more days, with that stuff on it, it kinda made me lose hope a bit, but.. I hope to see it hatch.
their sides is the right position.. one article said facing up, but with the shape of eggs, it's difficult to tell what's side front and back, I only know bottom and top.

 

[nuthatched]

I know too much of anything isn't good, I forgot to say I give em tomatos often too, I've tried a handful of things but those I mentioned they seem to like more than others. They love bread but I hear it's not good, not sure about honey wheat, but very little sometimes, and not much cat food cause it's too much salt/some nutrient.
I don't know what gives calcium, but I have tons of Oyster shells for which I think is for helping part of that.
But she's normal again for now, I pulled out a thing sticking out without putting nothing in, she pooped a lot half way out, then i took out what looked like a saggy half a shell, was very gross.. but she seems to feel better and is going around.
I'll add more water for more humidity then, those last pics are the same egg, it's still possible to hatch? just a few more days, with that stuff on it, it kinda made me lose hope a bit, but.. I hope to see it hatch.
their sides is the right position.. one article said facing up, but with the shape of eggs, it's difficult to tell what's side front and back, I only know bottom and top.

If the feed is a pelleted or crumbled feed for layers, it will be fine. If it says scratch, scratch is not feed and it's not really good for your birds. Your ducks might need actual duck feed. You can feed everyone an all flock or Flock raiser feed with oyster shell on the side. Anything besides their feed is a treat and should only be give once, maybe twice a week, about a tablespoon a chicken.
That egg doesn't look good to me but do you have pictures of earlier candling? if it's sweating, it's rotting. the 145409 egg, is still alive unless it's the same egg but from earlier.
I'm glad you were able to help your chicken with that egg, if she's laying soft eggs she might need a boost of calcium, try crushing a tums or a calcium citrate pill and mixing it into scrambled eggs or yoghurt.