Hen-feathered x Non Hen-feathered? **UDPATED PICS

Henk69:

I got this all screwed up yesterday.. Didn't I?
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Lets try this again.. I was told that the Henny is used to improve/clean up the pattern in females. ( Here is where I screwed up ) A Henny's male offspring will come out henny.

This is what I found in the book (The mating and Breeding of poultry).

Pullet mating-
"Use a hen-feathered male if possible, that is, a male that is as near the exhibition female in markings as possible. Males almost identical in markings to the female are produced and are valuable as breeders if they will fertilize eggs. Often, however,these hen-feathered males will not fertilize. These males have short sickles or no sickles, which increases their resemblance to the females. Use standard colored females for breeding."

Here is something else I found on Hennys at http://jhered.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/75/2/99

Inheritance
of the henny-feathering trait of the Sebright bantam chicken
R. G. Somes, Jr., F. W. George, J. Baron, J. F. Noble, and J. D. Wilson
Department of Nutritional Sciences, the University of Connecticut Storrs, CT 06268
Department of Cell Biology, the University of Texas Health Science Center at Dallas, Southwestern Medical School Dallas, TX 75235
Department of Internal Medicine, the University of Texas Health Science at Dallas, Southwestern Medical School Dallas, TX 75235

Please address reprint requests to Dr. F. W. George, Department of Cell Biology, the University of Texas Health Science Center at Dallas, Southwestern Medical School, Dallas TX 75235

Abstract

The henny-feathering trait of the Sebright bantam chicken is the result of an enhanced rate of estrogen synthesis (aromatase activity) in skin and other peripheral tissues of this bird. To gain insight into the underlying nature of this mutation, we examined the inheritance of this trait using a sensitive isotopic assay for aromatase activity. All birds of the F1 generation obtained by crossing homozygous henny X non-henny chickens expressed increased arornatase in the skin, and the males exhibited benny-feathering plumage. The average rate of aromatase activity in the skin of F1 chicks was approximately half that of homozygous henny chicks. The distribution of increased aromatase activity in the F2 generation and in the backcrosses of F1 to the two types of parental strains suggest that the enzyme activity in extragonadal tissues is regulated predominantly by one autosomal gene. Attempts to demonstrate linkage to several known loci by backcrossing F1 heterozygotes with parental chickens carrying a variety of genetic markers were unsuccessful. We conclude that the enhanced estrogen synthesis in extragonadal tissues in chickens carrying this gene is inherited as an autosomal codominant but that a half maximal level of the enzyme is sufflcient to allow full development of female feathering in affected male birds so that benny-feathering is transmitted as a dominant trait.

I am so sorry for the mix up..
Chris
 
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Good thing I understood all that.. Or else I'd be doomed. Thanks Chris and Henk. I guess the biggest thing is to see how this chick comes out. But, what that article is saying is that, even with half a dose (hetero), a male bird can still be hen-feathered, which means this chick can still be hen feathered? Correct?
 
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Im going to say yes it can be /could be a henny..
Know you said that he wont breed with your Sebright hens?
What you could do is put him in a holding pen say 4 ft. X 4 ft. by himself and put you best hen in a holding pen 4 ft. X 4 ft. about 2 ft. from him( so that he can see her but cant get to her. Then after a week or so put her in his pen he should go right after her..

Chris
 
I do have a 4x8 pen I could put them in.. would that work? Or would I have to separate him so that the larger hens aren't in view? I have had him out with only the Sebright hens before and he did the Dance for them, but otherwise, no mounting.
 
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You want him with no hens for about a week or two and you dont want the hen that you are going to ues with any rooster. That way he should be ready for the job..

Chris
 
Does this cock look to be henny feathered? He is definitely male (crows, clucks for his hens, fights to protect them, mounts them), definitely fertile (I have offspring from him), but looks female in pattern and body, especially feather pattern. With the silkie feathering I cannot tell for certain. This is something I have not encountered before. I'm considering breeding him to a non-silkie feathered black to see exactly what the pattern looks like.

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I wish I could help you Sonoran but I couldn't tell you I just ain't that good with Silkies..
But I can say that I have only seen hen feathered roosters in a hand full of chickens.
Hamburgs, Sebrights, Wyandottes, Game. That's not saying that other breeds couldn't have it I sure they can..

Chris
 
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You want him with no hens for about a week or two and you dont want the hen that you are going to ues with any rooster. That way he should be ready for the job..

Chris

Ok. As of right now though he is in Quarantine in the garage. He came down with a respiratory infection so the separation part is a success. I'll keep this in mind though, since I'm not ready for breeding, much less hatching, at this point. Thanks Chris
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With the weather we been having here in Ohio its a wonder all the bird aren't down with something.

Chris
 

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