Hen Gaping, Need Advice

BonnieBlue

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Right before I moved my girls to their new coop, I noticed one of my hens gaping. The night I moved her, I started her with Panacure treatments which I did for 4 days. There was a bit of a gap in the middle because I changed from treating at night, to in the morning when I could snatch her off her roost without staying up late. (This move is exhausting me.) I cannot watch her all the time, and I don't have cameras in the new coop yet, but it seemed she wasn't gaping. Then 6 days later I saw her gaping again and her comb was pale, and everything I have read is gape worms take two rounds, with a week in between. I started a second round of Panacure 6 days after the first, giving her a dose every morning for 5 days, without fail. She seemed fine. Two days ago was her last dose.

This morning she had a gaping like crazy episode. Approximately 8 times, wide gapes. Two things this morning. One, I had just deep cleaned the coop, which has sand, and although they were outside while cleaning, there was probably still a bit of dust in the air when they came in. The other is she had been eating, and was eating well. I checked in a few times, she seemed fine. Just went out there and she was laying under the poop board with her sister, and when she got up to come to me, she had one small gape, and that was it.

I went on the assumption of gape worms. Her sister is not gaping at all that I have seen. She has no coughing or sneezing, no discharge, or anything else that would suggest respiratory, and since this has been almost 3 weeks and her sister is fine, I feel like it is not contagious. She has a good appetite, and is not lethargic. I would think two rounds of Panacure would have killed gape worms, so I am at a loss.

Do some hens just gape a lot to adjust their crops? Am I missing something? I don't want to miss anything, yet I don't want to overtreat her. I am completely befuddled about which direction to go next.

Edit to add: I notice that for the first week she was here so a few days into her 2nd round, her night time poops were cylindrical, not piles. The last few days, they are normal piles of poop, normal amount. That made me wonder if it was worms.
 
Update:

This afternoon, someone passed about 4 or 5 decent sized (approx 1"x1.25") piles of clay. I picked around in it and found what looked to be worms. But since I don't know one worm from another, I am not sure what kind. They were maybe 1/2" long (or a bit under) and were thin and zig-zagged. I am wondering if the gaping this morning was trying to adjust her crop, because that seems like a lot of clay to pass, and clay is heavy. And it looked like pure clay. Who knows how long it has been in her gut.

She has lost weight over the past week, but has had a good appetite. I am going wih worms, but I will monitor her and see if she continues the gaping. I just hope if it was, whatever kind of worm, the Panacure and clay got them all and she can gain weight and get better.

My second hen got 3 days of Panacure on the first round, even though she hasn't shown any symptoms of any kind. I figured I should be on the safe side, just in case.

Fingers crossed this resolves.
 
Did you get any pictures of the possible worms? I think if you were half a day late in the middle of a 5 day treatment, it would not have mattered. What dosage did you give each one? The gaping may be adjusting the crop. Gapeworms are not common. If a chicken has gapes they usually cannot eat drink or do much else because it is so difficult to breathe. Can you feel of the crop in the early morning once she has gone without food and water all night, to see if her crop is empty and flat?
 
Her crop has felt empty in the morning when I felt it while giving her the Panacure, but she also feels like she has lost weight. And right next to her sister, she looks like she has. I did not get pics since I didn't have my phone with me. The dose I calculated for her weight was just under 1/4 tsp, so I gave her just over in a syringe, knowing not all of it would get into her. (It didn't.) I did the same with her sister.

Is it common for not all of the flock to get worms? I only did a three day treatment once on her sister at the same time, but she shows no symptoms of anything, and hasn't. It was more of a precaution since I felt like Peony might have some sort of worm. No gaping, comb is nice and red, has started laying normally again after the move.
 
I was concerned the worm could be maggots. Sometimes people mistake string py poo or urates to be worms. So a picture would be helpful. I use my tablet for pictures sometimes. We usually recommend 5 day course of wormer which gets capillary as well as gapeworms. Dosage is 1/4 ml per pound, at least for 3 days for gapeworms and 5 for most all worms except tapeworms.
 

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