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Hello BYC!
This forum has provided me with a TON of useful information since I got my chickens about 6 weeks ago, so I am already grateful to the community. But now one of my two hens has become very sick and I am hoping someone might be able to offer some advice. At the very least I can share my experience with other chicken owners and hopefully we can all learn something.
These are my first birds. Both were great for the first 4 weeks or so. They were very active and both laid eggs pretty much every day. The australorp quit laying first, somewhere around new year's day. She acted a little unwell for a day or two, but snapped out of it and was right as rain. Shortly after this the RIR started laying soft shelled eggs (they do get layer feed and free choice oyster shell). She may have even laid a shell-less egg or two.. I once found her sitting in the nest in a pile of egg goo. She showed some broody behavior as well (naked underside and sitting on nest all day, even though there were no eggs). She began to have diarrhea and after a couple days her butt was pretty filthy. I bathed her and it was then that I realized how weak and skinny she had become! The next morning I checked her crop (after removing the feeder the previous night) and found that it still had food in it. Since then she has spent the last 4 days inside and has shown no real sign of improvement... Today I also discovered some lice! I had checked her before but never saw any. She doesn't seem to be badly infested but I will dust her. Her eyes are bright and feathers are beautiful. She still talks. Here's a pic I took today of the hens enjoying the sunshine
1) What type of bird , age and weight (does the chicken seem or feel lighter or thinner than the others.)
- She's a Rhode Island red, about 1.5 years old, and probably weighs 3 to 3.5 lbs (she is very thin)
2) What is the behavior, exactly.
- Lethargic, stands around, barely moves, very weak and skinny, diarrhea, little or no appetite and not much desire to drink water. Her crop is not emptying properly, though it is not very full nor is there there any solid mass inside. I can feel pebbles and seeds that have been in there since I first noticed it wasn't emptying. It is squishy / doughy feeling. She wheezes / breathes hard occasionally. Seems kinda like a sigh of pain...
3) How long has the bird been exhibiting symptoms?
- About a week that I am aware of
4) Are other birds exhibiting the same symptoms?
- The australorp, my only other bird, was under the weather for a day or so but got better on her own. This was before the RIR showed symptoms. The RIR is acting differently than the australorp did.
5) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma.
- No
6) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation.
- Can only speculate... Soft egg burst inside? Ate something that got stuck?
7) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all.
- Very little. I've been feeding and watering her with a dropper just by dripping things onto her beak. I brought her outside in the sunshine today. She drank water and pecked at the ground a little. She normally has a HUGE appetite.
8) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc.
- Watery, yellowish, maybe a little mucous in there. Yesterday she had some slightly more normal-ish poops but today they look awful again.
9) What has been the treatment you have administered so far?
- Warm baths, oil and crop massage, keeping her inside where its warm and I can watch her. ACV in water. Have tried to give her probiotic foods. Have attempted to give her some dissolved aspirin (vet's advice) and dissolved calcium. Vet and I gave a subcutaneous injection of fluids a few days ago.
10 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? For example, do you want to treat completely yourself, or do you need help in stabilizing the bird til you can get to a vet?
- I did have an avian vet check her out. She suspected a problem with her reproductive system, but couldn't really diagnose without x-rays and such, which I can't afford. The vet visit was $50 and I may get a fecal sample tested for parasites.
11) If you have a picture of the wound or condition, please post it. It may help.
- The pic is of her napping in the sun today. She's pretty cute. They both are
12) Describe the housing/bedding in use
- In the coop there is mostly straw with some cedar shavings around the nesting/sleeping area. I clean the whole coop every day or every other day. Keep it as dry as possible, and replace straw frequently.
Well that's a lot of info!
I'm wondering if a static crop can lead to these symptoms... Should I consider operating on it if it doesn't get moving soon? I have been massaging several times a day. Crop contents did not smell sour last time I checked, but that stuff has been in there for several days.
Thanks for any replies! I have really enjoyed getting to know this hen and would love to see her back on her feet.
P.S. Her name is Alice
This forum has provided me with a TON of useful information since I got my chickens about 6 weeks ago, so I am already grateful to the community. But now one of my two hens has become very sick and I am hoping someone might be able to offer some advice. At the very least I can share my experience with other chicken owners and hopefully we can all learn something.
These are my first birds. Both were great for the first 4 weeks or so. They were very active and both laid eggs pretty much every day. The australorp quit laying first, somewhere around new year's day. She acted a little unwell for a day or two, but snapped out of it and was right as rain. Shortly after this the RIR started laying soft shelled eggs (they do get layer feed and free choice oyster shell). She may have even laid a shell-less egg or two.. I once found her sitting in the nest in a pile of egg goo. She showed some broody behavior as well (naked underside and sitting on nest all day, even though there were no eggs). She began to have diarrhea and after a couple days her butt was pretty filthy. I bathed her and it was then that I realized how weak and skinny she had become! The next morning I checked her crop (after removing the feeder the previous night) and found that it still had food in it. Since then she has spent the last 4 days inside and has shown no real sign of improvement... Today I also discovered some lice! I had checked her before but never saw any. She doesn't seem to be badly infested but I will dust her. Her eyes are bright and feathers are beautiful. She still talks. Here's a pic I took today of the hens enjoying the sunshine
1) What type of bird , age and weight (does the chicken seem or feel lighter or thinner than the others.)
- She's a Rhode Island red, about 1.5 years old, and probably weighs 3 to 3.5 lbs (she is very thin)
2) What is the behavior, exactly.
- Lethargic, stands around, barely moves, very weak and skinny, diarrhea, little or no appetite and not much desire to drink water. Her crop is not emptying properly, though it is not very full nor is there there any solid mass inside. I can feel pebbles and seeds that have been in there since I first noticed it wasn't emptying. It is squishy / doughy feeling. She wheezes / breathes hard occasionally. Seems kinda like a sigh of pain...
3) How long has the bird been exhibiting symptoms?
- About a week that I am aware of
4) Are other birds exhibiting the same symptoms?
- The australorp, my only other bird, was under the weather for a day or so but got better on her own. This was before the RIR showed symptoms. The RIR is acting differently than the australorp did.
5) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma.
- No
6) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation.
- Can only speculate... Soft egg burst inside? Ate something that got stuck?
7) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all.
- Very little. I've been feeding and watering her with a dropper just by dripping things onto her beak. I brought her outside in the sunshine today. She drank water and pecked at the ground a little. She normally has a HUGE appetite.
8) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc.
- Watery, yellowish, maybe a little mucous in there. Yesterday she had some slightly more normal-ish poops but today they look awful again.
9) What has been the treatment you have administered so far?
- Warm baths, oil and crop massage, keeping her inside where its warm and I can watch her. ACV in water. Have tried to give her probiotic foods. Have attempted to give her some dissolved aspirin (vet's advice) and dissolved calcium. Vet and I gave a subcutaneous injection of fluids a few days ago.
10 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? For example, do you want to treat completely yourself, or do you need help in stabilizing the bird til you can get to a vet?
- I did have an avian vet check her out. She suspected a problem with her reproductive system, but couldn't really diagnose without x-rays and such, which I can't afford. The vet visit was $50 and I may get a fecal sample tested for parasites.
11) If you have a picture of the wound or condition, please post it. It may help.
- The pic is of her napping in the sun today. She's pretty cute. They both are
12) Describe the housing/bedding in use
- In the coop there is mostly straw with some cedar shavings around the nesting/sleeping area. I clean the whole coop every day or every other day. Keep it as dry as possible, and replace straw frequently.
Well that's a lot of info!
I'm wondering if a static crop can lead to these symptoms... Should I consider operating on it if it doesn't get moving soon? I have been massaging several times a day. Crop contents did not smell sour last time I checked, but that stuff has been in there for several days.
Thanks for any replies! I have really enjoyed getting to know this hen and would love to see her back on her feet.
P.S. Her name is Alice