Hen vomiting now, help please?

[karri25]

THank-you. I guess I need to find an avian vet and get some nystatin:-(

 

[Windy Ridge]

Copper can be helpful in combating fungal infections. I'm surprised the vet would recommend pineapple juice; it IS good for the digestion, but if it's a yeast infection, all the sugar in the juice might cause it to go out-of-control. Did you mention the possibility of thrush to the poultry specialist? It may still be good advice, because he is certainly the expert. I'm not! However, if you didn't mention that it might be a yeast/thrush infection, that could ~possibly~ change his advice for you.

Here is a chart listing some foods high in copper (the %DV is for humans)

I notice that sunflower seeds are on the chart, and they're generally very good for your birds, anyway. Soybeans are listed, too... that sort of surprised me. Actually there's a lot of soy in most commercial feeds, but if they've been foraging a lot or eating lots of scraps, it could be that some additional copper-rich foods wouldn't hurt.

Copper is also more easily absorbed by an acid system, so ACV in the water might help, as people have been suggesting. (The best is the unpasteurized stuff.)

 

[karri25]

Thank-you, I was wondering about the pineapple juice myself. She is also still on sulmet since I haven't gottrenanything from the store yet. Just got finished showering all of her mess of me. Boy, I can't tell you how good I feel now
I really feel that if this is thrush, which I think it is, that I will be ok. I just need to figure out my game plan so to speak. I am going to look up foods with copper in them right now!!!!

 

[Windy Ridge]

That's strange... the preview of my post showed the whole chart. Oh, well.

It listed liver, sunflower seeds, barley, and various nuts and beans to the best of my recollection. I hope your hen will be okay!

 

[karri25]

THanks. I found the same chart that you used. I am wondering if calf liver is easily digestable for a hen. If so than I might get some of that and feed that to her with water and acv and vitamins for a few days and see if it corrects itself. How do you think that sounds? I thought about sesame seeds and sunflower seeds but I am wondering if it might be too hard for her to digest right now. Does that make sense?

 

[Barnyard Dawg]

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We use a coffee grinder for our flax seed, it would work for sesame seeds, millets etc. and then after it is ground can be added to their feed. When I eat my cereal I wil always grind up my flax seed.

 

[karri25]

Do you think the grocery store would let m euse theirs J/k, I don't have a grinder so I couldn't do that now. But that's a great idea!

 

[Windy Ridge]

I would think liver would be easier than sunflower seeds with hulls... if you had hull-less and crushed them up it might not be so bad. However, the liver did have A LOT more copper than anything else.

Personally, I don't think a little liver could hurt. Chickens are omnivorous, and will actually eat whole mice--ewww!--so it's not as if it's a completely unnatural food. (It's probably a lot less likely a flock could ever take down a cow, though... ha!)

Still, I'm not an expert. When I had thrush, once I got over my surprise, I took a copper supplement and it disappeared very quickly. Birds and humans are different, though, which is why going with a food naturally rich in copper would doubtless be better than trying to guess how much supplement to give. That could be a disaster. Liver should be okay, but I would personally want the advice of a specialist if I had one I could ask, too.

I'm not a specialist; I'm just opinionated.

I did find this

They mention copper as a treatment for thrush in chickens, something I didn't know until just a minute ago, so

I would think going the natural way would be a good thing.

 

[Barnyard Dawg]

"For a little over a decade, many bird owners have relied upon what is called a 'complete' and 'nutritionally-balanced' manufactured pelleted diet. Feeding a synthetic commercial feed has been touted as the 'best' or 'better' way to feed your bird and as a result has convinced the public at large that it is true. Sadly, our birds are the victims of these pretenses. Bird owners are now beginning to question the true value of these commercial diets, realizing that they are a far cry from resembling anything our birds are accustomed to eating in the wild."

Something most people aren't aware of is the benefits of bentonite clay and how birds and animals have used it for centuries for it's health benefits. I buy it at the health food store a pint from Great Plains will run around $8.95. Great for absorbing toxins and poisons.

www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/birds.htm

"...some birds are experiencing symptoms of vitamin deficiencies/excesses, recurring infections, digestive disturbances, stress-related disorders, or have developed organ damage and subsequently a shorter life-span." Our birds' bodies are adapted to fresh raw foods, such as fruits, vegetable matter, nuts, seeds, sprouts, berries, leaf buds, pollen, nectar, insects, larvae, and small vertebrae. When it comes to manufactured diets, not only are these products primarily made-up of fragmented substances and isolated, synthetic vitamins and inorganic minerals, most do not contain important elements like enzymes, chlorophyll, and other natural beneficial substances which are found in natural foods. There isn't a commercial food product or nutritional supplement available that can provide our birds with the outstanding goodness that is to be found in Mother Nature's garden. Eating foods, which are naturally produced can offer our birds, and ourselves, the ultimate opportunity to achieve vibrant and long- lasting health.

 

[karri25]

WEll I am loving all of this advise, I hope that she will enjoy eating all of these strange foods

I am finally on my way to the store. I am also going to stop by my feed store and see if they have some chicken vitamins. I would go ahead and get aviacharge but it would take too long to get here to do any good right now. I will let you know what happens.

BTW-she hasn't pooped, of course I cleaned most of her crop out. But I haven't seen her drink anything But she isn't droopy or anything, she is a little bit down but mostly perky?!?!?!?!? I hope that she is secretly drinking while I'm not watching. I wish I had a chicken diaper so she didn't have to sit in a smallish box!!!!