Hen with gross chunks in throat and gasping

[igotgoosed]

Ok, so should I do an actual treatment dose then? Would cocci make that little chick have labored breathing? No other symptoms aside from labored breathing and the typical sick chicken posture. Good solid poops, normal color. I did the corid for a week.

I didn't give vitamins in the water while doing cocci meds because of the whole vitamin b conflict with the medication. They did get it afterwards though, along with probiotics. They are still getting them now actually. The vitamins go in the water, and then each morning I make them a mash with probiotic powder in it.

I don't have shavings in their run, it's just the dirt/sand in the ground. It is very dry here so it makes a nice substrate. I rake it out and make sure it is clean.

 

[Michael Apple]

Ok, so should I do an actual treatment dose then? Would cocci make that little chick have labored breathing? No other symptoms aside from labored breathing and the typical sick chicken posture. Good solid poops, normal color. I did the corid for a week.

Sometimes stress and discomfort can cause what appears to be labored breathing. Do you hear any rattling in the throat while the bird breathes? The usual recommendation is 5-7 days, so a week isn't too long. What were you feeding your chicks at the time?

I didn't give vitamins in the water while doing cocci meds because of the whole vitamin b conflict with the medication. They did get it afterwards though, along with probiotics. They are still getting them now actually. The vitamins go in the water, and then each morning I make them a mash with probiotic powder in it.

I'll be a bit clearer. I don't give vitamins and Probios in the water while dosing Corid in the water. I follow up after the last day of Corid in the water with vitamins and probiotics. In between using Corid, I use vitamins and probiotics 3 days a week. Thiamine is B1. What Amprolium (Corid) does is limit the uptake of that particular vitamin which the protozoan thrive on. It keeps the numbers down while the bird builds immunity, but they still need to come in contact with the cocci protozoa to build immunity. People often think coccidiosis is only spread in filthy conditions. It isn't since it can sporulate and be airborne. What kind of probiotic do you use in the mash?


I don't have shavings in their run, it's just the dirt/sand in the ground. It is very dry here so it makes a nice substrate. I rake it out and make sure it is clean.

That should be alright. Just know that chicks and even adults sometimes ingest too much of the wrong things like grit, grass, or shavings. That can cause crop impaction. Remember, in order for the Corid to help the chick build immunity, coccidiosis should be present to a degree. There is as such a thing as being too clean.

 

[igotgoosed]

Ok now the little one has a rattle sound w hen breathing!

 

[igotgoosed]

They are eating purina medicated starter

 

[igotgoosed]

Omg wow. The little one just died. Its like she had a seizure and I saw her die.

 

[Eggcessive]

Oh, I'm so sorry for your loss. Hang in there.

 

[igotgoosed]

Mucous came out when her head flopped upside down when carried her outside.

This is the same way the other chick died!! A seizure sort of thing and bam...dead. what would cause this?? How can I keep the others from meeting the same fate?!

 

[Michael Apple]

Mucous came out when her head flopped upside down when carried her outside.

This is the same way the other chick died!! A seizure sort of thing and bam...dead. what would cause this?? How can I keep the others from meeting the same fate?!

I'm sorry about the chick. If you were feeding medicated feed all along, and used Corid in the water, that was incorrect. People either use medicated feed, or non medicated and choose water treatment instead.

Rancid feed can cause a condition called encephalomalacia. Symptoms usually appear between 15 and 30 days of age and as late as 8 weeks. Some symptoms are chicks attempting to walk and they fall forward or backward. Head can hang forward or backward, or twist from side to side. They flap their wings and fall on their sides, legs outstretched and trembling.

Vitamin E is the deficiency and the brain swells and softens. Excessive amounts of cod liver oil or soybean oil can cause it. If the brain damage isn't done, chicks can recover by using a good quality vitamin supplement with A,D, & E. Changing feed, of course is important. Stores that don't have a rapid turn around or selling feed that sits on the shelf too long should be avoided. Some brands of feed like Dumor (Land O' Lakes Purina feed LLC) have also been on the FDA recall list numerous times.

Did you see any blood in the mucous by any chance?

 

[igotgoosed]

OMG I can't deal with this any more! My daughter came out this morning to find that her beloved silkie, the one that we thought to have vitamin deficiency, had died. She was doing better...eating and drinking great, nice solid poops.

But that's not all. I heard a racket at 3 am this morning, so I got up to check it out and found the hen I'm treating for canker in a bad way. She can not stand and her head keeps twisting around upside down. She has mucous draining out now and keeps having seizures. She cries out. This is just breaking my heart. I want to help he go peacefully but I don't know how. This sucks so freakin bad.

 

[igotgoosed]

Goldie the hen just passed