HERE is where we are going to talk about a sustainable meat bird flock

[SteveH]

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Huh. I've heard that story, but with a different ending and it happened in Missouri.

Indeed, the bright young man came home from school with lots of new ideas. They would go industrial with a CAFO system. Production increased exponentially and the young man took over the farm.

At some point, however, this farmer learned that there is more to farming than increased production at all costs, exterminated every last one of his industrial hogs, and started over with a more humane, more sustainable, and yet very profitable style of farming.

I like to glean information on raising and/or breeding chickens from this forum and add what little I know if it can be helpful ; there are other forums I can use to read up on the advantages/disadvantages of modern living versus primitive living . If you two wish to continue this discussion , please do it somewhere else .

 

[dancingbear]

I'm also wanting to try crossing standard Cornish with good quality Rhode Island Red's or maybe New Hampshire Red's, if I can find some. I had an old red hen that was one of those, I don't know which, but she was wonderful. Loads of personality, and a terrific layer. She laid at least 5 eggs a week until she died on the nest one day, when she was around 8 or 9 years old. Never brooded, not once. Which is fine, I have plenty of others that do go broody, it's nice to have some that don't.

 

[sekinkead]

I haven't heard back from Sands Poultry yet but the other person I emailed said $36 + shipping for 6 eggs for the bourbon reds and I may get 1 or 2 extra. I just don't know if that is worth it. Hubby says no so I will just have to keep looking. Maybe I will just order the poults...

Anyone else thinking about getting some Muscovy ducks since that ban is supposed to go into effect at the end of the month. I have been thinking about ducks for a few months now and I think I may get some Muscovys just to beat the ban.

 

[CARS]

Part of this reply is to be taken lightly, so be gentle.


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Hatching rates are going to vary. At least with $8.00 poults, you have 6 chicks shipped out. With 6 eggs... well, depends on if they are even all fertile

Anyone else thinking about getting some Muscovy ducks since that ban is supposed to go into effect at the end of the month. I have been thinking about ducks for a few months now and I think I may get some Muscovys just to beat the ban.

What is the ban on exactly??? I don't check the duck section. Just don't tell anyone what you have...​

 

[WalkingWolf]

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I have a healthy black broiler roo that I intend on crossing to a couple RIR and a couple Barred Rocks, I am going to do some crossing of different roos to the black broiler hens. Mine are1 year old and surprisingly very healthy.

 

[petrelline]

The muscovy duck ban is being dicsussed here: https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=304055

 

[CARS]

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Thanks for the link. So??? We are in the meat bird section, right?? It says you can't raise them for anything but meat, right??? Same as quail, turkeys, pheasants, etc. in most states.

I only read the quotes and the first post. Am I missing what everyone is worried about????

 

[Buster52]

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Huh. I've heard that story, but with a different ending and it happened in Missouri.

Indeed, the bright young man came home from school with lots of new ideas. They would go industrial with a CAFO system. Production increased exponentially and the young man took over the farm.

At some point, however, this farmer learned that there is more to farming than increased production at all costs, exterminated every last one of his industrial hogs, and started over with a more humane, more sustainable, and yet very profitable style of farming.

I like to glean information on raising and/or breeding chickens from this forum and add what little I know if it can be helpful ; there are other forums I can use to read up on the advantages/disadvantages of modern living versus primitive living . If you two wish to continue this discussion , please do it somewhere else .

Hey, Boss brought it up. I was trying to deflect and stay on topic with a little teasing thrown in, but he had to go back in and change his post to bring up the same old arguments.

There is nothing at all primitive about modern sustainable agriculture. It isn't about "the old way of doing things". It takes the best of the old, mixes it with modern science, to come up with something refreshingly new. Dancingbear highlighted two excellent examples in her post... Polyface Farm and biointensive gardening .

 

[HallFamilyFarm]

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Thanks for the link. So??? We are in the meat bird section, right?? It says you can't raise them for anything but meat, right??? Same as quail, turkeys, pheasants, etc. in most states.

I only read the quotes and the first post. Am I missing what everyone is worried about????

The regulation on Muscovy ducks will only allow them to be kept if for food. Even then, noone will be permited to propogate them. thus, not sustainable per this threads OP. This regulation concerns us all! From BYC to exihbition to hatcheries to meat producers. Just go over and check it out and call your elected officials. The muscovy is one of the best producing meat birds for the backyard you can get.

 

[Buster52]

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That sounds high to me. If you don't hear back from Sandspoultry, contact this person .