here's why we shouldn't put quail and chickens together...update #3

[kingmt]

Maybe it is a bit harsh but really what do you expect making that comment here. Being new at quail yourself & offering disinformation do you really expect others not to shoot it down. Even if you was experienced that comment would have been shoot down. I resurfaced it only because of people that was saying there is no proof so I brought up a thread that shows proof. Not to reopen it for debate. Maybe you'll learn the easy way from us that found out the hard way, maybe you'll find out the hard way yourself, or you won't learn at all. But as of now your birds are no good for resale & if you do sale your putting us all at risk. I personally will only get quail from eggs.

 

[cajun quail365]

Maybe it is a bit harsh but really what do you expect making that comment here. Being new at quail yourself & offering disinformation do you really expect others not to shoot it down. Even if you was experienced that comment would have been shoot down. I resurfaced it only because of people that was saying there is no proof so I brought up a thread that shows proof. Not to reopen it for debate. Maybe you'll learn the easy way from us that found out the hard way, maybe you'll find out the hard way yourself, or you won't learn at all. But as of now your birds are no good for resale & if you do sale your putting us all at risk. I personally will only get quail from eggs.

Actually I've been in the quail business for 6 years

 

[kingmt]

Edit: I thought about it & decided to let it go.

 

[MissMason]

so I have a question about this. I have chickens that cruise around on 17 acres in CA. We have lots of wild quail in the area, are they at risk for this disease because of my chickens or is it really just domesticated game birds?

 

[dc3085]

Nope. You should do what you can to keep them apart but its hard. My sister has the same issue. Valley quail coveys cross her barn yard every morning and night. There is little you can do about it short of driving the quail away or containing the chickens.

 

[Drel]

ya'll can say all you want about me being new here and i dont know what i am talking about! bite me! i only joined to make a simple observation! 1st- i want say, is that i hear what all of you quail heads are saying. yes i read the whole dang thing! LOL! all are valid points. 2nd- srry for the mishaps!. now to my problem. that big old book JJ quoted and that point forward. in that quote it had said other birds can carry the disease. providing i read it right. if game birds are highly susceptible to it and cold also be a carryer! again providing i read it right. let me bring to light a possibility. let me make this clear!! I AM A NOBODY WITH A HEAD ON MY SHOULDERS. what are the birds that one would see the most? and these birds are on the upland game bird list! our common everyday English or House Sparrows, Starlings and Doves/Pigeon. English sparrow? real name the English Finch. wouldnt that include other finch related birds? if you leave your door open. couldnt a sparrow fly in and chow down on some kibble? as long as i have cared for a mixed flock(not mine). i have seen the said other culprits feeding on kibble every day. i hope this takes some of the heat off of chickens a little bit. very good info on this thread tho.

 

[paneubert]

ya'll can say all you want about me being new here and i dont know what i am talking about! bite me! i only joined to make a simple observation! 1st- i want say, is that i hear what all of you quail heads are saying. yes i read the whole dang thing! LOL! all are valid points. 2nd- srry for the mishaps!. now to my problem. that big old book JJ quoted and that point forward. in that quote it had said other birds can carry the disease. providing i read it right. if game birds are highly susceptible to it and cold also be a carryer! again providing i read it right. let me bring to light a possibility. let me make this clear!! I AM A NOBODY WITH A HEAD ON MY SHOULDERS. what are the birds that one would see the most? and these birds are on the upland game bird list! our common everyday English or House Sparrows, Starlings and Doves/Pigeon. English sparrow? real name the English Finch. wouldnt that include other finch related birds? if you leave your door open. couldnt a sparrow fly in and chow down on some kibble? as long as i have cared for a mixed flock(not mine). i have seen the said other culprits feeding on kibble every day. i hope this takes some of the heat off of chickens a little bit. very good info on this thread tho.

I am having a hard time following, but I think you are asking if common wild birds could also be to blame for transmitting disease? If that is what you are saying, then yes. That could happen. And it probably does happen. The problem is it is not possible to test that one random sparrow that flew in and ate some food that one time. He flew away and you will never be able to tell which random sparrow he was if he ever comes back. Now for chickens and quail.....you have a much more captive audience. You could technically link one chicken as the carrier. Or one quail as the carrier.

 

[Drel]

LOL!!! let test some sparrows! im down with that! yea, you got what i was saying. say you test your birds and they come up negative for the disease? then what? an immaculate conception of a disease? LOL!! thats why i pointed out that another game bird that could be a carrier may have flown in and played beer pong with the quails, then left. analytical statements are only good when they include all points.

 

[Chickietreats]

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Even though i didn't technically have them in the same area, some of the younger chickens were able to fit through my fence (or they flew over). Anyway, when my garage door was open they'd come inside and eat the food that the quail managed to flip onto the floor. I never saw one of them on top of the quail cages, but apparently the floor was close enough!

I have this guy in isolation, and (so far) haven't seen any others exhibiting symptoms....but they're on antibiotics just in case!

*update #1*
Okay, i got home a little while ago and the little guy (girl actually) is looking better. The right eye looks to be about 90% and the left eye is at least less swollen.

To clear the air about the diagnosis....When i first noticed this condition, i shot JJMR794 a PM because we've been keeping in touch about different issues with birds and i valued his opinion. I do value the opinion of everyone on here, but I knew JJ had some similar issues in the past. He gave me (as the vet confirmed today) a correct diagnosis and proper advice about which antibiotics to use. I was actually not entirely convinced, but as he put it, "better safe than sorry!

So, even though i had the bird in quarrantine and no other birds had any symptoms i went to my vet (country vet, deals with anything) and had him give the bird a good once over. He confirmed inflammed nasal passages which means it has (forgot right now....see the following posts) and sold me a bottle of Baytril to use on the bird with symptoms (and the next 200 with issues) and syringes to inject into the leg muscle. He said to continue with (hmmmm yellow powder) for the next 7 days for the other birds and 4-5 with injections on this one.



*update #2*

I went out this morning to play doctor and the bird is looking much better. The pink swelling in pic #2 is gone as is the irritation. I'd say this eye is completely normal looking at this point. The swelling in pic #1 has gone down considerably...no more pink tissue, but it's still barely able to open its eye on this side. She also gimped around after i gave her a shot, but that seems normal to me.

And the even better news, no other birds are showing any symptoms whatsoever!


*update #3*

still playing doctor and the bird is doing A LOT BETTER! The left eye is back to somewhere around 50-60% open...still no othe birds with symptoms!

I'll keep everyone posted with the progress

I know this is an old thread but there is so much good info here. I don't have quail YET but do have chickens. Is it safe for quail to be in an area with plants that have been grown in compost containing chicken manure? Other than that, they would be kept completely separate from the chickens - no contact.

 

[007Sean]

More than likely you'll be ok , the area in question has been exposed to UV rays long enough to kill any "contact" diseases. Just remember, and I 've been saying this for years...BIOSECURITY is of the ultmost importance when raising any polutry, gamebirds, or any other animal for that matter.