Heritage Large Fowl - Phase II

[Yard full o' rocks]

There's no scientific evidence to back this up. It's a placebo effect. Sorry to break it to you. It will have plenty of positive effects (improved digestion, alters pH of intestinal tract and makes it less hospitable to parasites being chief among them) but controlling the gender of offspring is not one of them.

Edit: Put another way, if there was an actual way to do this, especially as cheaply as that it would be widely used in hatcheries and well, pretty much everywhere.

We need to keep in mind that we are all hatching too few to represent a statistically accurate sample size from which to draw conclusions. While the results we see with small numbers may lend itself to a conclusion that ACV helps produce larger quantities of female offspring, Matt's analogy is dead on. IF ACV produces a larger quantity of female offspring, then why don't the large/production hatcheries invoke this practice? Same for commercial poultry applications for egg laying operations??

I don't mean to be contrary....if it works for you, then by all means employ it. However, from a strictly scientific basis (my undergrad is in engineering so I tend to be a little this way, sorry), the statistical result from a small sample size leaves too much room for inaccurate interpretation of the data

Time for coffee....sorry to have gotten on a soapbox this early on a Saturday

 

[Pozees]

Will try the ACV this year and record numbers...have had high cockerel numbers in hatches March to May. Earlier hatches were 50/50.
Our temps in Central Okla have been freezing for almost a week now and predictions are negative windchill for several more days. Wyandotte in the outside open air coops are doing great...they venture out but return to the coops. They don't like the snow. the Buckeye trio come out more often. Bucking hot water to the pen tubs 3x a day. As a farm note about the weather: We had a calf born yesterday (2nd calf this year for this cow...she bred back earlier than planned) and had to bring him inside because he was literally freezing before mom could clean him up. He spent the night in the kitchen on a rubber mat covered by rug runners. Bottle fed him colostrum and then milk replacer. He goes back out this morning although his joints are still stiff from the freezing. He can get up and down by himself now....now back to chickens.

We have had similar weather in Southern Colorado - Tuesday it was 63 degrees, Wednesday and on we can't get out of the teens, overnight lows ranging from single digits to below zero. It's predicted to be Tuesday before we top 20, and Wednesday we are expected to finally get above freezing. RIR are out every day, Fayoumis want nothing to do with this weather.

NanaKat do you have a picture of your open air coops?

 

[Maggiesdad]

...I miss Bob...

 

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...I miss Bob...

...I miss Bob...

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Looks like winter wonderland outside about 8 to 10 inches of snow and really cold

 

[catdaddyfro]

We need to keep in mind that we are all hatching too few to represent a statistically accurate sample size from which to draw conclusions. While the results we see with small numbers may lend itself to a conclusion that ACV helps produce larger quantities of female offspring, Matt's analogy is dead on. IF ACV produces a larger quantity of female offspring, then why don't the large/production hatcheries invoke this practice? Same for commercial poultry applications for egg laying operations??

I don't mean to be contrary....if it works for you, then by all means employ it. However, from a strictly scientific basis (my undergrad is in engineering so I tend to be a little this way, sorry), the statistical result from a small sample size leaves too much room for inaccurate interpretation of the data

Time for coffee....sorry to have gotten on a soapbox this early on a Saturday

I still think it could go back as far as the thing of the male embryo being able to survive conditions(this is purely vigor at work here IMO) that the females can't (too many not gonna start a list here) but maybe in this case the ACV may have increased eggs hatched yield(though better nutritional values or you know just awesome eggs to be hatched from) therefore bringing the averages(K/P) closer together. One would have to do a study on that comparison too. IMO yes I don't see ACV changing the chemistry up in the females system so much as to alter the sex signal I believe environmental and flock numbers ie. rooster to hen ratio could do it though. Mother Nature is pretty good at checking and balancing things out. We don't know how and one can only try and guess at it mostly. IMO I do know I have had hens that lay more rooster eggs than pullet eggs or vice versa.
OK will quit havnt had enough caffeine yet this morning for much more it could get "off the wall" (in a hurry here) LOL

Jeff

 

[catdaddyfro]

Looks like winter wonderland outside about 8 to 10 inches of snow and really cold

I'm so glad I migrated back south Scott even though its cold here, I still can get out and go somewhere(so far) LOL

Jeff

 

[Yard full o' rocks]

Looks like winter wonderland outside about 8 to 10 inches of snow and really cold

Post pix PLEASE.....for us in the deep south who got 3"+ of rain

 

[Bluetick340]

Who all has lights on pens? Started mine on thanksgiving on Welles and rirs.

 

[Yard full o' rocks]

Who all has lights on pens? Started mine on thanksgiving on Welles and rirs.

I started lights on mine 2nd week of Nov.....mine have graduated each week to more light such that they come on at 430am, off at 830am....moving it tonight to come on at 4am tomorrow and that will be my last adjustment (hopefully)