Histomoniasis: Yellow Urate & Lethargy in Poult...

[Pennys Mama]

1.34kg

 

[casportpony]

1.34kg

Excellent! How about that cecal poop? How's it looking?

 

[Pennys Mama]

Excellent! How about that cecal poop? How's it looking?

I haven't seen any gross looking poo. Everything I see in his pen is formed with white urate caps, no mushy squishy stuff anywhere.

 

[casportpony]

I haven't seen any gross looking poo. Everything I see in his pen is formed with white urate caps, no mushy squishy stuff anywhere.

it's very important to know if he is passing cecal poop or not. It's important because one of the things that can happen with blackhead is that their ceca can get plugged up with pus.

Here is an article I found:
Cecal vs regular poop.
I think this explains the ceca pretty well:
"by Wendy EN Thomas of Lessons Learned from the Flock

For those of us who have never seen the inside of a chicken, it turns out that a chicken’s anatomy is pretty darn interesting. I recently took a class where poultry anatomy was explained and although there are many interesting bits throughout a chicken’s digestive and reproductive systems, today I am going to concentrate on two tiny sacs that help with digestion.

Located at the at the ileo-colic junction (the end of the small intestine) and before the beginning of the large intestines are the cecal pouches. These little pouches or sacs are analogous to the cecum in mammals except that with chickens, there are two. (Makes sense, chickens proportionally eat a lot more fibrous material that needs to be broken down than mammals do.)"

So how do these sacs help chickens with their digestion? The main purpose of cecal pouches is to collect fibrous material from the small intestines. While this material is being held, the cecal reabsorbs as much water as possible, while at the same time fermenting and breaking down the coarse material that the chicken has eaten (twigs, fibrous materials.)

The cecal pouches then expel and empty that fermented, partially-dehydrated mess two to three times each day.

Here’s the tricky part and what you really need to know about cecal pouches. The droppings from the cecal appear much different than the normal intestinal poultry droppings. A regular normal chicken dropping is firm, green to brown in color, and had a bit of white urate deposit.

A normal cecal dropping, on the other hand, is a brown, soft, moist dropping with a strong odor. A dropping that sometimes causes some chicken owners alarm as they mistakenly think it is an indication of diarrhea and illness.

Thick, sticky, brown chicken droppings will occur on a daily basis. It’s important to identify these and recognize that they are normal dropping as a result of chicken’s having those cecal pouches."

 

[casportpony]

Below is a copy and paste from an old thread. A turkey cecal poop should look a lot like peafowl cecal poop.

Cecal poop vs regular poop
These are overnight poops from a 7-year-old rooster that appears to be quite healthy. On the left is a normal cecal poop, on the right, are pretty normal regular poops, though one pile has a little spec of red.


This is the same poop moved to a paper towel. regular poop on top, cecal on bottom.


Same poop again. Notice the creamy texture of the cecal poop compared to the regular poop. Interestingly, I think maybe I can see a cecal worm in this picture. Will go back and see if I can verify.


Normal peafowl cecal poop:



Abnormal peafowl cecal poop:

 

[Pennys Mama]

I'm gonna go do a more thorough examination of his pen. I want to be sure he's on the mend with no setbacks. I've seen a few soft poos but none of those liquid puddles he did a few days ago. Thank you! I'll post as soon as I get done.

 

[Pennys Mama]

Below is a copy and paste from an old thread. A turkey cecal poop should look a lot like peafowl cecal poop.

Cecal poop vs regular poop
These are overnight poops from a 7-year-old rooster that appears to be quite healthy. On the left is a normal cecal poop, on the right, are pretty normal regular poops, though one pile has a little spec of red.


This is the same poop moved to a paper towel. regular poop on top, cecal on bottom.


Same poop again. Notice the creamy texture of the cecal poop compared to the regular poop. Interestingly, I think maybe I can see a cecal worm in this picture. Will go back and see if I can verify.


Normal peafowl cecal poop:



Abnormal peafowl cecal poop:

Here's everything that is in his pen. The 1st one looks like it was probably a cecal poo, but it was right in the path of where he paces....so it is smashed flat into the hay.

The rest look to be just normal poos to me.

 

[Pennys Mama]

@casportpony
Jake did this just now, wetter than his other poos.

 

[janiedoe]

One more question @Pennys Mama @casportpony
Is Jake now a carrier of blackhead, or will he be able to be housed with other turkeys?

 

[R2elk]

One more question @Pennys Mama @casportpony
Is Jake now a carrier of blackhead, or will he be able to be housed with other turkeys?

The poult is not a carrier of blackhead and will not spread it to others. Chickens can be carriers because they are capable of having the protozoan, Histomonas meleagridis in their system without succumbing to the disease.