Hook worms in chickens can anyone help me

[geebs]

so sad... sorry to hear about your loss... can you post pics of the eggs??? I use pour on ivermectin..

 

[dawg53]

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I hope you rotate wormers geebs. Alone, ivermectin pour on wont kill hookworms...safeguard and valbazen will. Good luck.

 

[Chickadee55]

Is Bumble foot common? What causes it?

 

[dawg53]

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Bumblefoot is like getting a splinter or maybe a tiny cut/scrape on their foot and getting infected. Heavier chickens are possibly more suseptable getting bumblefoot

 

[kbryant]

Hi Dawg53, I have another question after reading some of your posts to other people. You are such a great helper!!!!

I saw where a lady said dhe had to throw eggs out after worming. I have never done this . Do I have to, for how long and why???
sorry I don't know alot!!!

 

[kbryant]

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I have not learned how to do pictures yet. If some one can walk me thru I will try.

 

[AndreaS]

Hey Kbryant,

Sorry for your loss. Do you think your girl was an internal layer? There are several threads on here, and if you search them, some really good pictures of egg masses formed inside the body....usually there is a thick layer of cooked yellow yolk in the abdomen that causes infection. It's cause is unknown, although many folks have ideas about what it might be, and there does not seem to be a cure. It is sad indeed.

Speckledhen has several threads on her internal layers and pictures of what she found after post mortem exams. They are worth looking at. I would love to know if what your vet found was similar, or if it was something else altogether.

Andrea

 

[kbryant]

Thanks, Where would I find speckledhen?

 

[dawg53]

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Some people eat the eggs after worming, some people throw eggs away for very long periods of time etc....
Wormers are poisons designed to paralyze or kill worms. This is what you're giving your chickens. Once you give a chicken a wormer....it takes time for it to go through the chickens system, time for it to do its job, time for the worms to disllodge, time for the worms to be absorbed or excreted, enough time for the wormer to be free and clear from the chickens system. Most wormers are all considered to be safe because they are also prescribed to humans...this is where people get the idea that the eggs are safe to eat. That being said, people who are taking worming medications are under a controlled environment ie...a doctors prescribed care. We are not doctors/vets dosing our chickens. I dont care how safe eggs are after worming....the wormer is still in the eggs and it's still a poison and if a person eats the eggs, if they're sensitive, there's the possibility there could be an adverse reaction however so slight the amount of wormer, the odds are small but still there. I wont take the chance and simply wait the normal 14 days. There's an alternative, you could purchase epinex pour on, there is no egg or meat withdrawal. However, it doesnt kill tapeworms and liver flukes, and a couple of other worms (forgot what they are). People avoid chemical wormers (so they can eat eggs) and use natural wormers...I avoid natural wormers because it's a guessing game whether or not they work, correct dosing/application, they take a long time to kill worms and meanwhile worms are sucking the life out of their chickens. Then they claim the natural wormer is working because they see worms in the poop. Not necessarily true...it means they have an infestation of worms when they show up in poop. Then they say they arnt moving, the natural wormer must be working. Not true. Worms cant survive outside their host, that's why they're dead. When you see a worm or two in poop, I can assure you there are thousands of worms in their innards and they are continuing to lay thousands of worm eggs to be deposited on the ground, to be picked up by another chicken to restart the worms lifecycle all over again. I want to use chemicals to immediately kill the parasites and not let my chickens suffer because of them. Then I repeat worming in 10-14 days to break the worms lifecycle. I kinda got off topic abit, but it's all tied in together and wanted to explain my reasoning behind it. Therefore, most wormers have a 14 day withdrawal period except eprinex. 28 days total egg withdrawal is a small price to pay for healthy chickens and delicious eggs without having the fear of cracking open an egg and seeing a roundworm in it. (It has happened to a few people here in BYC, rare, but it happens) So it's a choice a person has to make, should you eat the eggs or not?

 

[AndreaS]

When you search this forum, use the search link in the blue bar that says index, user list, rules, search, etc....don't use the google search option.
Under the BYC search you can search by author name and by topic. Speckledhen is a moderator on this forum and has documented her experiences with internal laying very well. I was just trying to dig up some links for you and found that you have discovered Cynthia's most recent internal laying post, so you must have figured it out.

So, did it look the same as the photo's there?


Also, to post pictures, upload them to your computer, then click on the upload link in the blue BYC bar at the top of the page. You can scroll through to find your pictures, upload them, and then under your uploads there will be a url that you can copy and paste in your posts. If you are able to upload photos, it would be helpful for figuring out what the problem was. Not many vets know as much as we would like them to about caring for chickens, and because so few people bring their birds to the vet, your vet may not have been able to recognize the signs of internal laying if that indeed was the problem.