hoping someone can explain...

[The Moonshiner]

I know its a bad pic but here are a couple of my leghorn chicks.
Lavender on right and blue on left.

 

[nicalandia]

All I can add is that I also suspect the one chick is blue.

I agree

 

[sawilliams]

Still very confusing. And personally I don't see blue at all but that doesn't matter. I tried to do a little on the chicken calculater it didn't help much as I'm not sure about the hens genetics. But if I got most of it right the hen is white dominate/recessive and either hidden blue (bbs) or hidden lavender (self blue) changing either of those for the hen makes no difference in the model apperance. The only other was the cream/straw color but there were multiple variations for that none that i could pull into the wings on the model just the head

So this hen crossed with the lav roo managed to pull recessive white from both and is either a Lavender (self blue) or a blue (bbs) split to lavender right? Either way it looks like i was rather lucky to get the chick as both combos gave at least 16 varieties with lav or blue being only 4 (2m 2f) of the possiblities. White was 8 chicks and black the other 4. I think it was 16 due to the added red for her cream color. But at a minimum I would have to hatch at least 4 to get 1 lavender/blue from the current hen.

 

[sawilliams]

just wanted to share how the chicks are growing. They are a little over 2 weeks old. The cinnimon queen hatch has some more grey or black spots coming through as explained. And one of the other EE is getting more brown almost maroon red I don't know if you can tell in the picture. The little lavender is still just as cute as the other day.

I moved then all to a bigger pen as i will need the small one for the eggs that will be hatching next week. I'll try to update with the colors of the new chicks there are 10 eggs in the bator same mixes and i have a broody that just started with another 7.

 

[sawilliams]

Ok so here's a few updated pictures of the first hatch. They are 3 weeks old and i don't know if hoy can tell but the white chick is turning a grayish color and not a pretty gray but like a rolled in ash gray.

Anyways today I have 7 more hatch from the flock, 9 eggs total 1 more piped. I don't have many pictures as the bator is at kindergarten. 4 ee hatched and 3 brown eggs. I'll have to check thier combs once i get them all home to see who is who. But there are 3 gray (lav/blue) in this hatch so far and 4 black. I think one of the gray is a single comb but if not then possibly 2 or more of my 5 ee hens all have some sort of blue or lavender gene hidden. I was a little shocked by the colors because even the best match for the known mama gave me a 2-8 chance of blue or lavender for with 4 white and 2 black for each set. I know the only way i could figure the grays would be a selective hatch with multiples from each mom marked separately...

Here are the pics

 

[sawilliams]

Here are the new hatches

#1

#2

#3

 

[sawilliams]

#4

#5

#6

 

[sawilliams]

#7

#8

 

[sawilliams]

I know its a bad pic but here are a couple of my leghorn chicks.
Lavender on right and blue on left.
View attachment 1378874

So i figured it out. Well my confussion that is. I don't know what a blue chick looks like, and i dont remember what a lavender chick looks like as that was a year ago.

Honestly moonshiner your chicks look almost identical to me and neither look like my chicks.

Fact is everyone says blue, but i don't see it because no one is explaining why they think blue. My chicks don't look like the images of blue chicks I'm finding. Yes they don't look like all of the images of lavender either but they do look like some of the images of lavender I'm finding.

Do can someone please EXPLAIN why you think my chicks are blue and not lavender? Realted to thier color not the hatch history.

 

[sawilliams]

Oh genotype/phenotype question

I think I've pinned down some close variations for some of the hens note the white and cream hen are the same with blue or lavender present. These are with the most basic changes I could get from trying to turn a blue hen other colors with out straying from the lavender too much.

The cream EE #1, dominate white I/i, with blue BL/bl and partrige e^b/e^b instead of extended black E/E... could be recessive white instead of dominant but I can't get the color to leak through with recessive.
Chicks 4/8 white 2/8 blue and 2/8 black
If recessive white 2/4 blue 2/4 black

The white ee #2, recessive white dominate c/c with blue or splash BL/bl or bl/bl both show white.
Chicks 2/4 blue 2/4 black.

Hen #4, she was harder to get close. But basicly came down to no white showing i/i for dominate and C/C for recessive with blue BL/bl.
Chicks 2/4 blue and 2/4 black

I haven't been able to find a blue or lav combo for #3 with out diluting the darker browns so I think this is my most likely for the EE chicks throwing brown coloring.

And #5 is black, in some form or another and should only hatch black with the rooster unless she to has hidden color.


Going too go back and play with #3 colors again.

Ooh another note 1-4 where feed store chicks from the same store different weeks but presumably the same hatchery. #5 was a back yard mix from a friend part of my first 6 hens we didn't know she was an EE untill she started laying.