Hoping Someone Can Explain

[Blue Eager]

One thing to consider is that using a Splash rooster over a splash hen will give you 100% splash offspring, but the contrast of the "splashing" will be lighter in 50% of the offspring. To get the best contrast within your splash coloring, use a dark blue X splash, or dark blue X dark blue.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/content/type/61/id/5448875/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL

This is a great chart & I thank you for pointing the dark & light blue breeding. That is very exciting because I think their both great. My blue hen is dark blue. Any way let me see if I finally understand what all these charts mean;

If I breed Blue x Blue 50% of the offspring will be ALL Blue, 25% ALL Splash, & 25% ALL Black with no fibro spillage. Is this correct? In other words it is possible to get an all splash & an all black from a blue mating pair?

BTW folks I am not a She…

 

[The Moonshiner]

One thing to consider is that using a Splash rooster over a splash hen will give you 100% splash offspring, but the contrast of the "splashing" will be lighter in 50% of the offspring. To get the best contrast within your splash coloring, use a dark blue X splash, or dark blue X dark blue.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/content/type/61/id/5448875/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL

How does that work? Or what would make 50% of them lighter?
A splash is just a black with two copies of blue. Two copies of blue is just two copies of blue isn't it? Why would it matter where the blue gene came from its still just a blue gene?

 

[Blue Eager]

There might be some truth to that. Here are my two Splash hens. The blue highlights of one is much more pronounced then the other.

How does that work? Or what would make 50% of them lighter?
A splash is just a black with two copies of blue. Two copies of blue is just two copies of blue isn't it? Why would it matter where the blue gene came from its still just a blue gene?

 

[The Moonshiner]

I just don't see the genetics behind it to make certain ones lighter. Especially to say 5% will be one way and 50% the other from the same breeding pair.
I wondered where you got that.
Blue is just a dilute for black. So one blue gene dilutes it and two blue genes dilutes it twice.
I know the amount of dilution can vary so some blues are darker or some lighter. The same would hold true for splash.
I didnt know if you were saying there was a genetic reason and if so what it was.
I think splash are just different because of the degree of dilution not that there is something causing a certain amount of them being a certain way.

 

[Blue Eager]

Well that's obviously over this breeders head although I too am interested in this
phenomenon. I am still trying to figure out why some blues are darker then others.

 

[Sydney Acres]

I don't know the reasoning for why a splash X splash produces 50% normal splash and 50% dilute splash. My suspicion is that it may be the same reason that there are both dark blues and light blues, but I'm not sure. There is a breeder in TX that works with first import line Silverudds Blues. Beauties!! She only wants splash birds with high contrast, so she does not breed splash to splash to avoid getting the dilute splash birds. I had never heard of this, despite working with blue slate turkeys,
and went looking for an explanation. I found this chart that seemed to confirm what she said. That's all I know!!

 

[Sydney Acres]

This is a great chart & I thank you for pointing the dark & light blue breeding. That is very exciting because I think their both great. My blue hen is dark blue. Any way let me see if I finally understand what all these charts mean;

If I breed Blue x Blue 50% of the offspring will be ALL Blue, 25% ALL Splash, & 25% ALL Black with no fibro spillage. Is this correct? In other words it is possible to get an all splash & an all black from a blue mating pair?

BTW folks I am not a She…

Yes, if you breed blueXblue, you will get all 3 colors. Each of those colors obtained in this manner will be just as true as if they were obtained with other matings, such as blackXblack = black, or blueXblack = blue + black, or blueXsplash = blue + splash.

 

[The Moonshiner]

I don't know the reasoning for why a splash X splash produces 50% normal splash and 50% dilute splash. My suspicion is that it may be the same reason that there are both dark blues and light blues, but I'm not sure. There is a breeder in TX that works with first import line Silverudds Blues. Beauties!! She only wants splash birds with high contrast, so she does not breed splash to splash to avoid getting the dilute splash birds. I had never heard of this, despite working with blue slate turkeys,
and went looking for an explanation. I found this chart that seemed to confirm what she said. That's all I know!!

Interesting subject.
Although I'll stick with my opinion that there is no truth to that charts idea about a 50/50 split of splash and dilute splash or what I assume they're saying with the two blue circles representing a lighter and darker blue.
I believe a lighter or darker version of both blue and splash can be produced in any of the pairings.
I believe its by the loss of melanizers and extent of loss on individual birds that cause it not what varieties are paired.
I have heard that splash X splash will dilute after generations so a lot of breeders breed back to black or blue every so often to crisp up the color.
Maybe someone heard something simular and took it differently to make that chart.