Horse Talk

[Kusanar]

Bay use to be my favorite color, now it's my least, but if I look hard enough I can still find a bay I like haha. I just love all horses of all colors. And what's a true white? I thought there was no such thing as a white horse, only completely greyed out or max white overo (not sure if that's the right pattern but I'm sure you get what I'm saying) or lethal white. Idk all the white stuff still confuses me. And why am I having such a hard time picturing your horses? Have you posted pictures of all of them?

Stud ( I posted a picture of him a while back) is the "true white" he is actually a maximum expression sabino (so you were close), but he has pink skin so he's not a grey, and other than a few dime sized or smaller spots, he is pure white. He has a small brown spot the size of my pinkie nail on his hip, and a spot about half that size in black on the inside of one hock, so I know he's a bey... but geeze, it took me about 3 years to figure out what color he was!

Wings (my grey arab) HATES palominos with a passion. He was pastured with 2 really mean ones for a while, now I have to watch him if we run into one somewhere, he'll try to take a chunk out of it... He tried to go after a little hafflinger mare at a fox hunt one time and she hadn't even looked at him!

 

[kwhites634]

Thank you. ..she was a beautiful, sassy, brat.....and that is what we lived about her.


Thank you


Thank you. .....yes, surgery would have been the only chance and the vet was not optimistic about that option. She was DDs heart horse.

I'm sorry...never easy. I've two sleeping peacefully on the place....lightning

 

[abigalerose]

Well, I need you to post pictures of all of them now lol.
And okay! I don't know why they had to make the white horse stuff so confusing lol.
It would bug me though to have a white horse with one tiny little speck of brown, I'd constantly be wishing that I could just bleach that spot to match so he'd be perfect haha.
And poor guy, palominos are kinda mean, June's palomino and Jasmine is dunalino, and they are definitely my two sassy mares, they pick on the boys all the time, but they're all buddy buddy with each other. I stay out there with them when I feed them so I can make sure they let the geldings eat with them.

 

[PeepersMama]

I don't think that 90% of the people in my area realize that eventually a grey horse will end up white they just see a nice dun or palomino or whatever color horse and then think "well it's gonna go grey and won't be pretty any more" so they pass on them. And everyone I know especially hates fleabitten greys (I don't really like them that well either). But yeah a lot of people do like white horses, I'm just amazed that so many don't understand that grey eventually turns to "white". And if the horse is built right, it can make any color pretty! So I don't discriminate. One of my favorite stallions is sorrel but in general I don't like that color. Just depends on the horse it's self.
I still get fired up about the blue roan thing though, it's still the most popular color in my area, and it is pretty, but I get so annoyed seeing scraggly bad conformation, sometimes completely untrained horses, selling for a higher price than well put together trained horses just because they're blue roan!
And everyone here hates palominos by the way, how weird is that?
Oh, and I think part of the reason why so many greys end up in the holding facilities at BLM, is because the really young grey horses are kind of an ugly brown color (like mine was when I got him) and the people who do the color stuff at BLM don't know how to tell if a young horse is gonna go grey so they litterly put "brown" as the description and I think people just see that and go ew.
After I had mine for a few years they came out to do an inspection, and I had to convince the lady it was the same horse because the papers said brown but he was grey, and she was just in awe that he "changed colors".

XD there have been longer rants, I'm sure. And this was a good one!
Spot on. I know that Mira was a REEEALLY dark bay when she was a baby, and her half sister Angelina was solid black. Mira is already getting " flea bites " on her shoulders.
To be completely honest, I can get rather picky about palominos myself. Its gotta be a certain shade of gold - a really dark shade of gold.

YES. I'm not a HUGE fan of blue roans myself, partly because of that. But there is this big BEEFY gelding that visits next-door sometimes....... I luuuuvs him.

 

[PeepersMama]

Stud ( I posted a picture of him a while back) is the "true white" he is actually a maximum expression sabino (so you were close), but he has pink skin so he's not a grey, and other than a few dime sized or smaller spots, he is pure white. He has a small brown spot the size of my pinkie nail on his hip, and a spot about half that size in black on the inside of one hock, so I know he's a bey... but geeze, it took me about 3 years to figure out what color he was!

Wings (my grey arab) HATES palominos with a passion. He was pastured with 2 really mean ones for a while, now I have to watch him if we run into one somewhere, he'll try to take a chunk out of it... He tried to go after a little hafflinger mare at a fox hunt one time and she hadn't even looked at him!

I remember that picture. He's a pretty boy.

It always amazes me how freaking SMART Arabs are.... Like seriously, the day before we went home with Mira we came over and gave her a bath and an overall 5-star grooming and stuff. We came to pick her up at 3 in the morning and she was going CRAZY. And she was the only horse going nuts too!!! All the others - even her yearling soister - were just watching the show, like "dude, seriously, chill"

 

[PeepersMama]

Well, Ms. Fancy Unicorn is officially Mom's horse.
And y'all have no idea what a load it is off my back. She doesn't like me, and I have no patience with her anymore. My conscience keeps telling me that I need to keep at it and learn to work with horses I don't really like, but... I can't do anything with her if we don't bond! Its jiust how i taught myself, i guess. Me and Smoke are bros now. I ADORE him and he trusts me. But Mira..... Same two people for the first five years of her life, and you've probably heard how loyal Arabians can be.... Plus, I like to work with shy animals. Don't know why, but even with doigs (who's species oi HATE), if I meet a super shy dog, I make it my mission to become its friend before we leave whoever's house we're at. I do NOT like super friendly critters that wnt attention constantly (coughMIRAcough). Smoke was a little psycho when we got him, and now I'm going to be trail riding him soon! But it took so long to esarn his trust..... Me and Mira just don't click.

 

[abigalerose]

XD there have been longer rants, I'm sure. And this was a good one!
Spot on. I know that Mira was a REEEALLY dark bay when she was a baby, and her half sister Angelina was solid black. Mira is already getting " flea bites " on her shoulders.
To be completely honest, I can get rather picky about palominos myself. Its gotta be a certain shade of gold - a really dark shade of gold.

YES. I'm not a HUGE fan of blue roans myself, partly because of that. But there is this big BEEFY gelding that visits next-door sometimes....... I luuuuvs him.

Oh I love ALL the palominos, super dark, medium, so light they're almost white, and even the sooty ones. I could have a whole herd of palominos in all different shades and patterns and marking and I'd be happy. But I do think blue roans are very pretty, people are just silly about them around here.

Well, Ms. Fancy Unicorn is officially Mom's horse.
And y'all have no idea what a load it is off my back. She doesn't like me, and I have no patience with her anymore. My conscience keeps telling me that I need to keep at it and learn to work with horses I don't really like, but... I can't do anything with her if we don't bond! Its jiust how i taught myself, i guess. Me and Smoke are bros now. I ADORE him and he trusts me. But Mira..... Same two people for the first five years of her life, and you've probably heard how loyal Arabians can be.... Plus, I like to work with shy animals. Don't know why, but even with doigs (who's species oi HATE), if I meet a super shy dog, I make it my mission to become its friend before we leave whoever's house we're at. I do NOT like super friendly critters that wnt attention constantly (coughMIRAcough). Smoke was a little psycho when we got him, and now I'm going to be trail riding him soon! But it took so long to esarn his trust..... Me and Mira just don't click.

And I hear ya! Everyone tells me I should suck it and push through when I have a horse I don't get along with but I caaaant. I don't force human relationships with people I don't get along with, not gonna do it with horses either. Oh and since you like shy animals, come work with Indie for me. He's crazy shy and I hate it. I like the friendly ones like June.

 

[Bunnylady]

Mira was a REEEALLY dark bay when she was a baby, and her half sister Angelina was solid black.

That's how gray works. Foals usually are born a lighter color than their normal adult color; it's thought to be a sort of cryptic coloration (helps the foal hide from predators). When a foal with the gray gene is born, it's like the cells responsible for putting color in the hair are on overdrive. A genetic gray is born intense black, or bay, or deep red, or whatever. Pretty soon, the color cells burn themselves out, and the horse starts having colorless (white) hairs turning up - typically around the eyes first. A horse that inherits gray from both of its parents usually goes gray faster; it may be completely white by the time it is 5 years old. When the skin of a genetic gray gets damaged, sometimes you get those over-achieving color cells growing back as it heals, and you get dark marks on a light horse. I once knew a fleabitten gray that had broad, black lines all over his backside, like someone had used him to clean a paintbrush loaded with black paint. I really don't want to know how that came about.

As far as personality goes, I can usually find something about a horse to like. If there is one thing that really gets under my skin, though, it's the horse that is gunning for me - not just testing to see what it can get away with, but actively trying to hurt me. I'm way too old to enjoy that kind of drama.

 

[Kusanar]

That's how gray works. Foals usually are born a lighter color than their normal adult color; it's thought to be a sort of cryptic coloration (helps the foal hide from predators). When a foal with the gray gene is born, it's like the cells responsible for putting color in the hair are on overdrive. A genetic gray is born intense black, or bay, or deep red, or whatever. Pretty soon, the color cells burn themselves out, and the horse starts having colorless (white) hairs turning up - typically around the eyes first. A horse that inherits gray from both of its parents usually goes gray faster; it may be completely white by the time it is 5 years old. When the skin of a genetic gray gets damaged, sometimes you get those over-achieving color cells growing back as it heals, and you get dark marks on a light horse. I once knew a fleabitten gray that had broad, black lines all over his backside, like someone had used him to clean a paintbrush loaded with black paint. I really don't want to know how that came about.

As far as personality goes, I can usually find something about a horse to like. If there is one thing that really gets under my skin, though, it's the horse that is gunning for me - not just testing to see what it can get away with, but actively trying to hurt me. I'm way too old to enjoy that kind of drama.

Wings, my grey, is getting fleabitten, when I got him, he was 10 years old and solid white but any scars that he picks up come back bay for a year or so before greying back out. I have a photo of him when he was 2 (given to me by previous owners) and he was a mousy bay, almost a dun color on his coat and faded black points, not a pretty color at all, so the white looks better. lol

 

[PeepersMama]

Oh I love ALL the palominos, super dark, medium, so light they're almost white, and even the sooty ones. I could have a whole herd of palominos in all different shades and patterns and marking and I'd be happy. But I do think blue roans are very pretty, people are just silly about them around here.


And I hear ya! Everyone tells me I should suck it and push through when I have a horse I don't get along with but I caaaant. I don't force human relationships with people I don't get along with, not gonna do it with horses either. Oh and since you like shy animals, come work with Indie for me. He's crazy shy and I hate it. I like the friendly ones like June.

Its kinda cool that every pal is a different shade of gold though. So if you ever did get a whole herd, you wouldn't have a load of trouble telling them apart! XD

Oh thank HEAVEN I'm not the only one (I wonder how many times I've said that talking to you. )! We're so much alike oin our horse life. XD
Sweet. All I need is a roundpen and the rest of the year.
Ooh.... I'll trade you Mira for Indy. Sound good?