Horses!!!!!!!!

[ederob]

This the 200th post on this thread!

 

[showbarnmom]

Actually they are not paints unless they are both registered APHA horses (or unregistered but out of registered stock). Paint is a specific breed, but PINTO is the name for the color pattern on spotted horses other than paints. Tobiano, overo, splash, minimal white, piebald, skewbald, etc can all be used to describe coat patterns/colors in both paints and pinto horses and ponies. But only a paint is a paint....

Spotted coats can happen in just about every breed. Even Arabs and Morgans (hopefully only when crossed with other breeds, but it has happened in purebreds...) can be spotted (coat color can sometimes refered to as sabino if they qualify) - you wouldn't call them a paint, though. It seems more stock horse type spotted horses get wrongly labeled as paint when they are not, doesn't seem to happen as often in the other breeds.

And paints can be paints even if they are solid colored, same as appaloosas can be appaloosas without spots. Sometimes coat color/pattern genetics can be tricky.

Yes, I am aware. The palomino is a registered paint. The tobiano paint has APHA papers, though I do not have them because he was a rescue. So they are both paints.

 

[naturalfeddogs]

Actually they are not paints unless they are both registered APHA horses (or unregistered but out of registered stock). Paint is a specific breed, but PINTO is the name for the color pattern on spotted horses other than paints. Tobiano, overo, splash, minimal white, piebald, skewbald, etc can all be used to describe coat patterns/colors in both paints and pinto horses and ponies. But only a paint is a paint....

Spotted coats can happen in just about every breed. Even Arabs and Morgans (hopefully only when crossed with other breeds, but it has happened in purebreds...) can be spotted (coat color can sometimes refered to as sabino if they qualify) - you wouldn't call them a paint, though. It seems more stock horse type spotted horses get wrongly labeled as paint when they are not, doesn't seem to happen as often in the other breeds.

And paints can be paints even if they are solid colored, same as appaloosas can be appaloosas without spots. Sometimes coat color/pattern genetics can be trick

You can breed a paint and a QH and still get a paint. Depending on the resulting foals markings. And it can be registered with the APHA assuming both parents are registered AQHA & APHA. Both parents don't have to be reg. APHA, but they do both have to be reg. as either AQHA or APHA. Unless APHA rules have changed on that....

 

[res]

You can breed a paint and a QH and still get a paint. Depending on the resulting foals markings. And it can be registered with the APHA assuming both parents are registered AQHA & APHA. Both parents don't have to be reg. APHA, but they do both have to be reg. as either AQHA or APHA. Unless APHA rules have changed on that....

Yes, you described it better than I did. There HAVE to be registration papers in the process... You can't take a "rescue" or other horse with no papers IN HAND proving parentage, and call it a paint, it is actually a pinto. I don't think you can force registry but might be able to use DNA to prove the horse's parentage??? I haven't researched that...

The line of "the horse has papers but they were lost, burned, etc. " is the oldest line around... If anyone ever encounters a situation where they are looking to purchase a horse that is supposed to be registered, but the owners cannot produce the papers, then the majority of the time, it is an unregistered horse someone is trying to sell as registered. You can look some registered horses up on online databases, but that doesn't always mean that registration belongs to the horse for sale... I don't think allbreedpedigree.com can be manipulated to show owners, it just shows lineage, so a horse could easily be misrepresented on it. I can't speak for any breed registry's database, as I haven't bothered to log on to any in years and years. Heck, I haven't even changed the papers to my name on the stud I was "given" in Jan 2012. Maybe someday...

 

[ellieemae]

I have one, a 12-year-old off the track thoroughbred gelding. We normally do low level dressage and a trail ride here and there, but I'm just now bringing him back from a hind suspensory strain...a long process, but the time out of training has allowed for some really awesome bonding time as a team.

 

[chicken gal]

I love this!!!

Love the saying. I really wish I had a horse.

 

[ellieemae]

My horses have been barefoot all their lives (one is 23, one is 9). I have people tell me that I'm stupid to not have them shod, but I haven't had any problems. They get the wild mustang trim and their feet are as hard as rocks. No need for shoes imo

I really try to keep things as simple as possible with my boy and I do believe that there are enormous benefits to barefoot (it's how a horse's body is designed to be!). My gelding was barefoot when I bought him but he was not being worked consistently. Once I brought him into work we started to issues with crumbling hoof walls, stone bruises, obvious discomfort (stone sore). So we tried very basic shoeing and there just wasn't enough hoof wall to hold them with even the slightest tweak in the pasture. He's been on hoof supplement since I got him, but not enough time had elapsed to truly make a difference...he's got those stereotypical thoroughbred feet. We got his feet growing correctly with Eqilok, which also served to allow us to keep him shod on the front and now he's grown out to hold shoes on his own without the Eqilok. He'll never have picture-perfect feet. They'll be narrow and always have some of the funky shape from the "corrective" trimming at the track, but they're healthy now and he's not sore. I'd like to think that someday he could be barefoot again, and we'll certainly always be open to that, but as of right now I just don't think it'll be in the cards (sadly).

 

[ederob]

Love the saying. I really wish I had a horse.

I hope you get one, one day!

I have one, a 12-year-old off the track thoroughbred gelding. We normally do low level dressage and a trail ride here and there, but I'm just now bringing him back from a hind suspensory strain...a long process, but the time out of training has allowed for some really awesome bonding time as a team.

Good luck! And your horse is beautiful!

 

[IrishAcreFarm]

My senior QH Jewel munching on some hay! <3

 

[ederob]

My senior QH Jewel munching on some hay! <3

So beautiful!