How are they still alive?!?

Icy names would be so cool!!! :lau

How about, CHILLY? Remember Chilly Willy?
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And, there's FROSTY, too!

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The names will work for both hens or roos.
But, if you're wanting hens, I will pray for two little hens, for you! :jumpy

I’m definitely naming my keeper Blue Wheaten cockerel Chilly Willy! (My Father in law is Willie too he’ll get a kick out of that!)
 
What are your breeds? I am going to tag some folks here because this is interesting and I am not an expert by any means but maybe some other more experienced folks can help.
@sumi, @WVduckchick, @aart, @azygous, @KikisGirls, can any of you help here?
I'm on the road now, but in my articles page are some on incubation issues, causes of infertility and hatch failures.
 
My flock consists of 4 WBS Ameraucana hens and 2 cocks from 4 different breeding pens (toe punched) and purchased as chicks from a breeder. I also have 4 Gold Sex-link hens and it’s worth noting that I’ve hatched every one of their eggs I’ve set alongside the Ameraucana eggs. My Sex-links have not laid in a while though... Ameraucanas are laying off and on.

It’s been hotter then normal high 80s - low 90s (it’s pretty humid, currently 72% the reason I dry incubate now. We’re about 600 feet above sea level.

Here is what my incubator looks like now:
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I have a Brinsea 20 Eco so I turn it manually during the day. Here is a picture from a test hatch I did with Ameraucana x Sex-links. I had a great hatch that time, 16 chicks + one late hatch Ameraucana. My incubator is normally in a quiet room and no direct sunlight.
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Okay, here have been my issues in the past, I will link to the threads I started. Newest to oldest:


Currently dealing with this. I’m either going to cull her myself or take her live to the state vet for a necropsy. She’s not doing so well, no new symptoms but not eating or drinking and still blind. I’m well aware of the possible causes, some are downright scary!
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/sudden-blindness.1264732/#post-20316425

Bacillus cereus infection diagnosed via State Vet only infected Ameraucanas the Sex-links were unaffected and in the same coop.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/cankers-fowl-pox-or.1233579/page-5#post-19950574

Posted this and got some good tips, raised temps and started dry incubating and now what eggs start to develop, hatch on time. I’ve only had 1 or 2 each batch start to develop and quit/not hatch. Assuming thats normal?
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...ting-incubation-issues.1227414/#post-19693258

I am new to incubating and this will be my second year. I gave a ton of eggs to other people to see if it was me or my incubator but others have the same hatch rates in their incubator and broody hens. I hatched 5 of 11 with my own broody.

Let me know what other info you’d like to know.

Edited to add:

Currently feeding this:
https://www.nutrenaworld.com/product/country-feeds-egg-producer + access to oyster shell and hours of free range time almost daily. Going to be switching to this on Friday, https://www.nutrenaworld.com/product/country-feeds-all-flock-feed

I’m trying Red Cell in their water because of the below info, started Thursday. They also have access to plain water.
http://ameraucanabreedersclub.org/forum/index.php/topic,3636.0.html
 
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Lock down is tomorrow night and both chicks are still moving! One was more active than the other but it could have just been sleeping. They are due to hatch Friday night/Saturday. I am planning on buying a couple feed store chicks as friends for these chicks and they will be my new layers. I rehomed 3 hens tonight so that means I can get 6 feed store chicks right? Is my math correct?
 
If I am reading correctly, you have two breeds of chicken, and have been setting eggs from both breeds under the same conditions and one breed you are getting good hatches with, the other you are having terrible problems hatching? And you also have had bacterial infections which appear to only have affected the Ameraucana birds?

I'm a duck person so don't know anything about chickens or chicken breeds, only anything I've read which was relevant to ducks also. But it seems to me there is some sort of health problem affecting only the Ameraucana chickens which is impacting the hatchability of the eggs.

The roosters from what I read, are unrelated, so it's unlikely to be rooster infertility or some other problem coincidentally affecting all roosters.

I'm not sure if your hens are all related? If so, possibly there is something genetic there? Or some health issue that they or their other had which has affected their ability to lay good hatching eggs?

The only other possibility would see to be something in the environment which has caused problems to all the chickens of that breed which have affected fertility. Not sure why only that breed would get a bacterial infection when the other breed did not, unless either the hens are related and have something genetic making them more susceptible, or the Ameraucana breed itself has a genetic susceptibility to the infection that they got..

Anyway, if you can rule out the incubation environment (because the other breed you have is hatching well) then it seems to me it must be something either genetic, either species level genetic weakness/susceptibility to certain bacterial infections etc, or inherited weakness - if all roosters, or all hens, are related to each other.

Or if your hens and /or roosters or their eggs, all came from the same place, something environmental there.

Have you done much research on that particular breed and any genetic tendencies it might have?

I mean all breeds of whatever animal, are usually created by someone intentionally breeding an animal to have more of a certain characteristic, and often as a result, they also unintentionally breed mutations into the animal which result in a higher incidence of particular health issues. So is it possible that Ameraucana chickens have inadvertently had bred into them, some susceptibility - either to certain bacteria, or to infection with certain bacteria resulting in long term impact on fertility, or just a genetic tendancy towards infertility...
I'm just pondering possible reasons...as above, I don't have any experience with chickens, much less insight into genetic considerations for different breeds. But maybe there is an Ameraucana expert here somewhere who does have some understanding of anything genetic in the breed that might be a factor here?
 
If I am reading correctly, you have two breeds of chicken, and have been setting eggs from both breeds under the same conditions and one breed you are getting good hatches with, the other you are having terrible problems hatching? And you also have had bacterial infections which appear to only have affected the Ameraucana birds?

I'm a duck person so don't know anything about chickens or chicken breeds, only anything I've read which was relevant to ducks also. But it seems to me there is some sort of health problem affecting only the Ameraucana chickens which is impacting the hatchability of the eggs.

The roosters from what I read, are unrelated, so it's unlikely to be rooster infertility or some other problem coincidentally affecting all roosters.

I'm not sure if your hens are all related? If so, possibly there is something genetic there? Or some health issue that they or their other had which has affected their ability to lay good hatching eggs?

The only other possibility would see to be something in the environment which has caused problems to all the chickens of that breed which have affected fertility. Not sure why only that breed would get a bacterial infection when the other breed did not, unless either the hens are related and have something genetic making them more susceptible, or the Ameraucana breed itself has a genetic susceptibility to the infection that they got..

Anyway, if you can rule out the incubation environment (because the other breed you have is hatching well) then it seems to me it must be something either genetic, either species level genetic weakness/susceptibility to certain bacterial infections etc, or inherited weakness - if all roosters, or all hens, are related to each other.

Or if your hens and /or roosters or their eggs, all came from the same place, something environmental there.

Have you done much research on that particular breed and any genetic tendencies it might have?

I mean all breeds of whatever animal, are usually created by someone intentionally breeding an animal to have more of a certain characteristic, and often as a result, they also unintentionally breed mutations into the animal which result in a higher incidence of particular health issues. So is it possible that Ameraucana chickens have inadvertently had bred into them, some susceptibility - either to certain bacteria, or to infection with certain bacteria resulting in long term impact on fertility, or just a genetic tendancy towards infertility...
I'm just pondering possible reasons...as above, I don't have any experience with chickens, much less insight into genetic considerations for different breeds. But maybe there is an Ameraucana expert here somewhere who does have some understanding of anything genetic in the breed that might be a factor here?


Thanks for your brain storm! My gut it telling me it is a weakness/susceptibility. I do know the breeder I got them from has maintained a closed breeding flock for 10 years and has bred them pretty tight. They are all related coming from the same place but from different breeding pens. I do know who this breeder originally bought them from 10 years ago and it’s a very well known name in the Ameraucana world. I’ve hatched a few chicks of my own so I may give them one more year a see if home hatched chicks fair better.
Another option is I buy a batch from the original breeder and see if introducing distantly related birds and see if that helps. I don’t want to introduce a completely different line. I’ve got enough things to work on with my Wheatens!
Or I could scrap them all and start over. But I really don’t want to do that.
I haven’t done a whole lot of reading on the history of my breed/variety but I did do some. I may have to look deeper now.
 

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