How do you folks tell breeds apart?

[Sir Birdaholic]

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WOW, DID YOU SEE THE NAKED-NECK ON PAGE 12?

 

[speckledhen]

Interesting questions. See this pullet? Looks like a RIR, correct? Nope. She is a Blue Laced Red Wyandotte roo over blue Ameraucana hen. She lays tan eggs, not green, either. Long story about how she got the single comb--her sire wasn't pure for rose comb (single combs are common in Wyandottes anyway) and her mother probably wasn't pure for pea comb, hence the single comb. I could sell her as a RIR and no one would be the wiser, until they bred her to a RIR and got some bird that didn't look exactly like a RIR.

 

[joe17]

Interesting questions. See this pullet? Looks like a RIR, correct? Nope. She is a Blue Laced Red Wyandotte roo over blue Ameraucana hen. She lays tan eggs, not green, either. Long story about how she got the single comb--her sire wasn't pure for rose comb (single combs are common in Wyandottes anyway) and her mother probably wasn't pure for pea comb, hence the single comb. I could sell her as a RIR and no one would be the wiser, until they bred her to a RIR and got some bird that didn't look exactly like a RIR.

Thats really neat! If you would show her, would she still be considered a RIR? I mean, if she meets the standards, why not? I wouldnt do it but im curious if you could?​

 

[speckledhen]

 

[blackdotte]

Fowl are described by a written description - The Standard of Perfection.
For the purposes of exhibition, if the bird meets the requirements of the written Standard it can be shown as such. It may well win major prizes, but all will be revealed in the breeding pen.
There are exhibitors that purchase birds, win many prizes but never breed a single winner.
Hope that helps.
David

 

[Chris09]

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Thats really neat! If you would show her, would she still be considered a RIR? I mean, if she meets the standards, why not? I wouldnt do it but im curious if you could?

She don't meet standard. (no affence speckledhen )
Make a darn good Production type R.I. Red..

Chris

 

[speckledhen]

It may well win major prizes, but all will be revealed in the breeding pen.

Yep, there is the answer. Thanks, David. I would never sell Rita as a RIR, of course, but it could be done. Guess she could be shown as one, too, but I wouldn't do that, either; not that she is show-worthy anyway. Chris, she looks at first glance to be a hatchery type RIR, but her body is more narrow and not "brick shaped" nor are her other parts as they should be to the RIR standard. I don't have any interest in showing birds at all, personally. Chris, you posted while I was typing.​

 

[big medicine]

In theory, if the birds are breed to breed specs., you should be able to tell the breed by body type. Even with birds with matching features, such as single comb,clean yellow legs, ect. if the feathers were some how rendered all white let's say, if properly breed, should be distinguishable by build. Say rocks, new hamps, and rhode islands, for example. As the old saying goes type makes the breed, color makes the variety.

I like the old standard of perfections with the black and white pictures, and other similar photos. My eye seems to be more drawn to type and not so distracted by the color. In my brahma projects these type of shots were very helpfull in getting proper type goals set in my mind.