How long before Tylan?

[JacksonPearce]

I've got a new (had her less than a week!) 6 month old chicken who I've already treated for coccidiosis, and who now sounds awfully croupy and has sneezed quite a bit tonight. Her nose is a touch runny on one side, though not terribly so.

She's eating and drinking normally, even enthusiastically. Any thoughts on how many days I ought to give her before I start her on twice daily Tylan shots? Since her immune system is already working on the coccidiosis-- which she seems to be recovering from well-- I suspect an URI would hit her faster and harder than it would my other girls.

Think I should go ahead and start her on Tylan, or give it another day or so?

 

[duluthralphie]

I have not used Tylan myself. I am very careful with the use of antibiotics.

Chickens: For the control of mortality caused by necrotic enteritis (NE) associated with Clostridium perfringens in broiler chickens. As an aid in the treatment of chronic respiratory disease (CRD) associated with Mycoplasma gallisepticum in broiler and replacement chickens. For the control of CRD associated with Mycoplasma gallisepticum at the time of vaccination or other stress in chickens. For the control of CRD associated with Mycoplasma synoviae in broiler chickens.



I would continue corrid or whatever you used before, and think twice about adding a second antibiotic to the mess. The last thing you want to do is create a resistant bacteria of some kind that is named after you for the next 300 years. I feel I would rather lose a bird than create a stronger bacteria that takes more of my birds.

I know many people think of their birds as their pets. I do. BUT I do not want to risk losing all of them to just "maybe" save one.

I continuing the first treatment you used until that bird is well and completely recovered makes more sense to your flocks health and most like this birds health. discontinue the treatment until after the bird is 100% again for a few days...

Also quarantine the bird so no other bird comes in contact with it, or its feed, feces, bedding and so on. If the bird does pass. Cremate or bury the remains immediately.

It may be a simple virus the bird will recover on its own, or where an antibiotic is completely ineffective. Or it maybe a bacteria the first antibiotic will kill, If it does die and you get a second one with it. Then try the Tylan or whatever in a quarantine area until you get the antibiotic you need.

It sounds like you want to give her the Tylan as a prophylactic treatment, I think that is a bad approach in this case.

Good luck, These reason are why it is the healing arts and not always science for us small flock people without fancy labs.

 

[Eggcessive]

Have you ever had any birds in your own flock suffer from a respiratory infection where they had sneezing, foamy eyes, or nasal drainage? She has been exposed somewhere, either where she came from or where she was purchased. It sounds like infectious bronchitis or MG.

Most respiratory diseases such as viral ones (infectious bronchitis, ILT, and others will not respond to antibiotics.) Others caused by bacteria such as MG or coryza, may respond but the chicken will always be a carrier, may infect your flock, and the disease may come back again and again whenever she is stressed.

If one of your birds is a carrier, she could have been exposed when you brought her there. Many people buy srom swaps where chickens are exposed to many other people's sick chickens while they wait to be sold. Sometimes it is hard to tell where they get the disease, but unless you want it to spread to your flock I would keep her far away.

 

[duluthralphie]

Have you ever had any birds in your own flock suffer from a respiratory infection where they had sneezing, foamy eyes, or nasal drainage? She has been exposed somewhere, either where she came from or where she was purchased. It sounds like infectious bronchitis or MG.

Most respiratory diseases such as viral ones (infectious bronchitis, ILT, and others will not respond to antibiotics.) Others caused by bacteria such as MG or coryza, may respond but the chicken will always be a carrier, may infect your flock, and the disease may come back again and again whenever she is stressed.

If one of your birds is a carrier, she could have been exposed when you brought her there. Many people buy srom swaps where chickens are exposed to many other people's sick chickens while they wait to be sold. Sometimes it is hard to tell where they get the disease, but unless you want it to spread to your flock I would keep her far away.

I would go one step further on this. I am not ready to make a leap as to where she got whatever she has, yet.

I think the make up of your entire flock would help. The tweety bird and waterfowl in the area and what your pasturing--housing--run situation-- is like would help too.

Many times these viruses, bacteria or whatever can lie dormant for years until uncovered by scratching or digging or the leaves fall from the trees where a tweety bird landed and pooped....

Knowing the whole flock health can go a long ways.

 

[Eggcessive]

Most respiratory diseases that affect chickens can be spread by a chicken who may look perfectly normal, but who has been around another who got sick. Wild birds and waterfowl can carry in these diseases as duluth ralphie said. Most bacterial diseases only remain infectious for several days on equipment, shoes, clothing, and dirt, but viruses can remain longer, especially in frozen droppings.

If you are not seeing foamy or swollen eyes, Tylan probably won't help. Viruses have to run their course. Just realize if you use the Tylan antibiotic, that it may help symptoms, but the chicken will remain a carrier.

Mareks disease is one that causes decreased immunity to common diseases, so keep in mind, that she also could have that.

 

[JacksonPearce]

Thanks! I am not seeing foamy or swollen eyes— just the croupy sound and a bit of a runny nose. I bought her from a local breeder I like, but I’m sure it’s possible she picked something up there. She is housed separately from my other birds at present.

 

[casportpony]

I've got a new (had her less than a week!) 6 month old chicken who I've already treated for coccidiosis, and who now sounds awfully croupy and has sneezed quite a bit tonight. Her nose is a touch runny on one side, though not terribly so.

She's eating and drinking normally, even enthusiastically. Any thoughts on how many days I ought to give her before I start her on twice daily Tylan shots? Since her immune system is already working on the coccidiosis-- which she seems to be recovering from well-- I suspect an URI would hit her faster and harder than it would my other girls.

Think I should go ahead and start her on Tylan, or give it another day or so?

You can give Tylan at the same time as Corid, so no need to weight.

If you decide to give Tylan you should know that it's supposed to be given 3-4 time a day, not once a day. Since it can cause severe injection sit reactions many people recommend giving it orally. There is one vet that says to give Tylan 50 at 0.2 ml per pound of body weight 3-4 times a day.

 

[duluthralphie]

Most respiratory diseases that affect chickens can be spread by a chicken who may look perfectly normal, but who has been around another who got sick. Wild birds and waterfowl can carry in these diseases as duluth ralphie said. Most bacterial diseases only remain infectious for several days on equipment, shoes, clothing, and dirt, but viruses can remain longer, especially in frozen droppings.

If you are not seeing foamy or swollen eyes, Tylan probably won't help. Viruses have to run their course. Just realize if you use the Tylan antibiotic, that it may help symptoms, but the chicken will remain a carrier.

Mareks disease is one that causes decreased immunity to common diseases, so keep in mind, that she also could have that.

Aye, Eggy here is correct on all that. Also remember Mareks is everywhere.