How to advise a friend on their chicken care

FunnyBunny89

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Hey everyone!

I am wondering if anyone here could give ME advice on how to give advice to some friends about how they raise chickens. Here's some pertinent information:

1. They live in the forest at snow level, so they have a lot of predators out there. All they did to protect their chickens was put up a 6 foot galvanized steel fence. Their coop is elevated really high but it's very small, only fits about 6 comfortably.
2. They have lost 3 flocks now over the course of 2 years to predators, and they said their chickens tend to take a long time to give them eggs. E.g. they had chickens they raised as chicks for a whole year before any of them began to lay, and then they all got attacked by something overnight and died.
3. They marveled that their second flock of chickens preferred to sleep in the trees, but then the chickens were killed like, a month or so later.
4. The enclosure sits in a hill in a really neat grove of trees, but the dirt is all packed and hard and riddled with gopher holes. There are almost no plants growing in the dirt. The chickens, when I last visited before the most recent attack, seemed agitated and when one got out, she immediately ran to the nearest dirt and began scratching frantically.

With the latest attack, they lost all but one, a one year old EE hen. I have her now and I've been caring for her for two weeks while they sort out their issues with the coop. They said they had been leaving the coop door open at night and not bothering to close it 😟 obviously, a fox or raccoon found them.

I feel weird because the chicken in my care has seen a major improvement in her general condition; she's no longer dehydrated, she's been laying since the second day I had her (they've had her for two weeks and she hadn't laid at all. They said she was acting, "broody"), and she has all the dirt and plants in the world to scratch in and snack on here, so she's very happy. And all I could do for her was keep her in a dog crate! To think she's happier here makes me feel guilty if I send her back without saying something.


But idk not everyone cares that much about their chickens and I don't want them to feel like I'm lecturing them.

What would you do??

Ps I found her a rooster friend who can help protect the flock when he matures fully (hopefully). He's been great. I only hope he goes back to a home where he won't just become food for another wild animal.


Pps she has a real watering can now, the bowl was temporary 'til I went to the store. And also, she's in my front yard behind an 8 foot fence and the dogs yard is only about 30 feet away, so she's good and safe. I still lock her up every single night.
 
So glad you're taking care of her. If they haven't changed how they're treating them I'm not sure why they're getting another flock, taking a year to invest in raising chicks should warrant protection via a proper coop. The young rooster won't be able to protect them at night. I'm so sorry, I hope you can keep the henny.
 
So glad you're taking care of her. If they haven't changed how they're treating them I'm not sure why they're getting another flock, taking a year to invest in raising chicks should warrant protection via a proper coop. The young rooster won't be able to protect them at night. I'm so sorry, I hope you can keep the henny.
Yeah, I don't really understand their approach but when I have suggested things in the past, they say they don't have time. They left the coop door open overnight because they "didn't have time" to close it. So idk...

I really don't want to keep her, I feel maxed out with my own flock of 15. I'm sure they want her back too. I guess if it came down to it, I could try to bring her in, but my coop is technically maxed out at 18 and where we're at now, everyone just fits comfortably.
 
They left the coop door open overnight because they "didn't have time" to close it. So idk...
OK, that's just laziness. It takes 2 minutes to open or close the coop. If you don't have time for even that you need to evaluate your priorities. If they don't want to deal with that twice a day they should get an automatic coop door and be done with it. At least then the birds will be locked up
 
OK, that's just laziness. It takes 2 minutes to open or close the coop. If you don't have time for even that you need to evaluate your priorities. If they don't want to deal with that twice a day they should get an automatic coop door and be done with it. At least then the birds will be locked up
I agree! Here's the kicker though.. they had an automatic door. But it was broken and propped open. Idk for how long.
 
I agree! Here's the kicker though.. they had an automatic door. But it was broken and propped open. Idk for how long.
I don't even know where to begin with that......I honestly think they just shouldn't have animals. Chickens are low maintenance, but they do require SOME care and proper infrastructure. I can't imagine how badly neglected those birds were if they can't even take 2 minutes to close the door
 
I don't even know where to begin with that......I honestly think they just shouldn't have animals. Chickens are low maintenance, but they do require SOME care and proper infrastructure. I can't imagine how badly neglected those birds were if they can't even take 2 minutes to close the door
This right here. This is the truth.

You shouldn't have the right to buy innocent birds just to let them get maimed to death. Now that's animal cruelty. I've found that people hardly think of chickens of animals and more livestock. They just think "Ehhh their just chickens!". Which is really sad to me.
 
You said they are sorting out issues with their coop. So it sounds like they are aware that they need to improve. If you're really friends this isn't really a question because you just have normal conversation about it. "So how's it going, what are you thinking? Hey you should check out BYC, it's a great chicken resource." Friends are helpful..... If they're not really friends, more like neighbors that you don't know very well, then I'd stay out of it. I don't like how my neighbor let's his dog run loose but I'm not going to tell him what to do as that typically get's you unacquainted....
 
You said they are sorting out issues with their coop. So it sounds like they are aware that they need to improve. If you're really friends this isn't really a question because you just have normal conversation about it. "So how's it going, what are you thinking? Hey you should check out BYC, it's a great chicken resource." Friends are helpful..... If they're not really friends, more like neighbors that you don't know very well, then I'd stay out of it. I don't like how my neighbor let's his dog run loose but I'm not going to tell him what to do as that typically get's you unacquainted....
I have. I've told them that I use BYC for tips, and we have talked about possible changes they could make. Before we talked about changes after the latest attack, they would poopoo any question I would ask. I've only known them for a year, they've been keeping chickens for much longer than I have, and they don't seem to want to receive my input. Maybe now that I've cared for their hen, they'll be more open to it? I just fear I'll come across badly.
 
I don't even know where to begin with that......I honestly think they just shouldn't have animals. Chickens are low maintenance, but they do require SOME care and proper infrastructure. I can't imagine how badly neglected those birds were if they can't even take 2 minutes to close the door
Sorta how I feel but I don't feel safe to say that.
 

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