How to Produce BLR Orpingtons

[tfreeman]

My poultry gentics are very limited. Any help would be appreciated.

Scenario 1: I have a poorly laced BLR Orpington. To get better lacing and more BLR, would i need to mate the BLR Orpington to a Gold Laced Orpington? Would that give me some better laced BLR Orpingtons?

Secario 2: Starting from scracth; what colors could i use to produce the BLR Orpington?

Thanks

 

[ChickNanny13]

@sylviethecochin May be the one to ask, or @Faraday40 They're into Orpingtons, never heard of a BLR Orp, picture please. Love the breed

 

[tfreeman]

@sylviethecochin May be the one to ask, or @Faraday40 They're into Orpingtons, never heard of a BLR Orp, picture please. Love the breed

No pictures to show at this time. Will check with your recommendations. Thanks

 

[sylviethecochin]

Starting from scratch would take you a long time.

Blue Laced Red, however, is simply gold laced with a mutation of two genes: black (to make blue) and Mh (which modifies gold to make deeper gold.)

So I'd get a gold rooster with really nice lacing, as you already said. First gen would get you darker red, and half blue, half black offspring. From thence, select and breed back to the mother.

Or, you could go the route with the heavier initial investment, but quicker payoff: ie, buy quality breeding stock.

 

[ChickNanny13]

@sylviethecochin Thank you for the prompt reply

 

[tfreeman]

Starting from scratch would take you a long time.

Blue Laced Red, however, is simply gold laced with a mutation of two genes: black (to make blue) and Mh (which modifies gold to make deeper gold.)

So I'd get a gold rooster with really nice lacing, as you already said. First gen would get you darker red, and half blue, half black offspring. From thence, select and breed back to the mother.

Or, you could go the route with the heavier initial investment, but quicker payoff: ie, buy quality breeding stock.

Starting from scratch would take you a long time.

Blue Laced Red, however, is simply gold laced with a mutation of two genes: black (to make blue) and Mh (which modifies gold to make deeper gold.)

So I'd get a gold rooster with really nice lacing, as you already said. First gen would get you darker red, and half blue, half black offspring. From thence, select and breed back to the mother.

Or, you could go the route with the heavier initial investment, but quicker payoff: ie, buy quality breeding stock.

@sylviethecochin Thanks for the reply. The problem of buying quality breeding stock for a BLR Orpington is that I have only found one person working on this color in Orpingtons and the lacing needs improvement.

 

[EggWalrus]

This lady may be able to help. @Cyprus is very knowledgeable in genetics.
Good luck

 

[sylviethecochin]

@sylviethecochin Thanks for the reply. The problem of buying quality breeding stock for a BLR Orpington is that I have only found one person working on this color in Orpingtons and the lacing needs improvement.

Can you get eggs shipped in or buy another chicken? It would be much better for your breeding programme if you had two starting pairs for some genetic diversity.

 

[tfreeman]

Can you get eggs shipped in or buy another chicken? It would be much better for your breeding programme if you had two starting pairs for some genetic diversity.

I could locate two different GL Orpingtons stock, but both of the BLRs would come from the one individual.

 

[sylviethecochin]

I could locate two different GL Orpingtons stock, but both of the BLRs would come from the one individual.

It would extend the length of time during which you could line-breed among your own stock before fertility begins to drop. It's not a necessity to have two starting pairs, it just gives you more options and more diversity. EDT: Even if they are closely related. Besides, this way, if one of your breeding stock dies before you've got your first gen, you don't have to restart from scratch.