How well do horses, goats, and LGD mix?

You should volunteer at a Shire farm... We have a Clydesdale farm locally but yeah find your closest Shire farm and volunteer to work with the horses and get a feel for them. 16hh isn't big for a Shire and that makes me think that particular shire was still growing as they take longer to mature and grow than your typical horse.

I never thought of that! I will definatly look into volunteering, in fact I do believe there is a Shire farm near here, thanks
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Generally I think Belgians may be a little more stubborn than Shires (I've never owned a Shire but have had several Belgians - including the mare I have now). So, having said that this may not apply but it's good to know. My Belgians have ruined my fencing... all of my fencing. The pasture fencing is 3 strand barbless wire (NEVER use barbed wire with horses) and held up by 4x4 round posts and T-posts. If you stand at the corner and look down the fence row of T-posts they entire fence line is leaned outward - many of the T-posts are actually bent. Some of the 4x4s have been broken in half and others literally pulled out of the ground when they stuck their head in between the fence and then just lifted straight up instead of backing out. Argh!

The metal horse panel fences (the tubular ones used on round pens and gates) are all bent out of shape because she likes to rub her butt on them! So, I literally have a "round" pen and "rounded" gates - which made them unusable as gates as they didn't fit anymore.

I love my Belgian mare. But, she's expensive to keep and I'm not talking food bills. Plus, to ride her I had to get an extra large saddle. You can find draft horse supplies on line easily - but it's not cheap. Just getting a halter to fit mine cost me more and they had to be ordered on line as no one around her sells a large enough size.

Just stuff to think about.

Wow! Another poster said that drafts can be fence breakers but this really puts it into perspective. Out of curiosity, have you ever heard about the "Centaur HTP (High Tensile Polymer) equine rail fencing" ?​
 
My horses and Pygmy goats got along fine. The goats had a horse proof stall. The only time there could have been a problem was at feeding time so I made the goat's stall horse proof and they were left alone to eat in peace. The goats always had hay in their manger.
They had a bit of trouble getting used to the electric fences.
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I can't tell you about horses and goats.

But about the LGD dogs, there is great hope.

My three geldings HATE dogs and learned to chase and try to harm any that entered their pasture at our former stable.

On our farm now, real ranch and goat country, we have had a total of three wandering Pyranese and Pyranese mixes wander in and spend time at our farm and with our horses.

There's something about their gentle laid-back approach that disarmed the horses in their presence. They moved slowly and didn't bark at the horses. The horses tolerated them. If one of the dogs got in their path, the horses simply laid back their ears, lowered their heads and the dogs had the sense and ability to read the horses to simply move out of their path.

I wanted badly to keep the first one that wandered onto our property for that reason but found out the little Wanderlust already had an owner.

That is the one bad thing about LGD's. Pyrs and a few of the other breeds like to wander.

Connie
 

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