Hows everyone fending during the outbreaks?

What’s happening where you live?


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University of Florida switched all classes to online. 2 confirmed cases, travel related, one is a 24 year old in the same city, the other a 68 year old in the same county. No toilet paper anywhere, water is mostly bought out. People are going nuts. I work with preschool aged children who are all sick with a cold/allergies/coughing at the moment which isn't fun. Public schools are still open but if they close then my school will follow suit. I was sick with a bad cold the past two days I'm finally recovering, every time I cough out in public people look at me like I have the plague!
 
Anyways, survival tip! Albertsons! They have a two package toilet paper limit, so it’s not all gone. I hope other stores follow suit and put a limit too.

You took the words out of my mouth. I was typing this when you posted. I'm not understanding the toilet paper shortage thing.
I just heard on a sports radio station that is trying to figure out what to talk about now that there are no sports, one of the commentators said they were at a store and there was a family with 2 shopping carts filled with toilet paper. That's hoarding and should be curtailed.
There are only 2 confirmed cases in my state, however one was of a woman returning from college in Italy and may have infected her family. Her father and younger sister went to their father/daughter dance. So that school is now closed but that is the only one I'm aware of around here. I think that 6 states have now closed all schools. I believe schools are closing to limit social transmission, not because the children are in great danger but to keep them from infecting older family members.
I was going to the gym this morning but ran out of time (maybe later).
I'm also not understanding how we are unable to test more than 1,500 people thus far in the US when South Korea is testing 10,000 to 20,000 per day and the Congo and Nigeria are having no problem running tests.
When we finally get the tests running, it will grow exponentially.
It does seem to be quite contagious. NYC cases just jumped 30% in one day.
Like all other pandemics, this too shall pass.
Think Ebola, Bubonic Plague, Antonine Plague, the 1800s cholera pandemic, HIV/AIDS, SARS, MERS etc..
The death toll likely won't be as high as those but still high.
I'm of the age range that is threatened but not immunocompromised so I'm not worried about myself.
 
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Me, on three rolls of toilet paper and no way to get more... :oops:


I say that people will panic and stay in their houses for like a week, max. Then they’ll get stir crazy and come out, and everything will be packed full of bored people with nothing else to do. Good news, not much traffic!
Toilet paper has two sides, just save and use the other side later. :lau :gig:sick
 
:pop I for one am sick and tired of the media whipping the public into a panic.
Regular flu is much more deadly....wash your hands and keep people at arms length.
My biggest concern is the idiots that refuse to self quarentine and put me at risk. I have a laundry list of health issues, including diabetes. I already had the flu this year and have missed more than the alloted sick days for us teachers, partly because I have two children and they have had a rough year with illnesses.
 
:pop I for one am sick and tired of the media whipping the public into a panic.
Regular flu is much more deadly....wash your hands and keep people at arms length.

This isn't the case.
Flu in 2017 had 14.7 deaths per 100,000 cases last year. That's a fatality rate of 0.014%.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/184574/deaths-by-influenza-and-pneumonia-in-the-us-since-1950/Corona Virus has a MUCH higher fatality rate, in some cases going as high as 20%, but even in the best case scenario being 0.2%. That's still 20 times higher fatality compared to the normal influenza, and on average it's about 1.5%, or 150 times more deadly.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/
The reason people point out how how bad the flu is is because more people have it and do less about it. If 100,000 people get corona and 1000 people die, it still doesn't stack up to 5,000,000 people getting the flu and 50,000 people dying.
But that doesn't mean cornoa isn't worse than the flu it just means it hasn't gotten that bad yet. If it spreads nationally to the point that common influenza does it is going to be hundreds of times worse than the common flu.
The reason it's a bigger problem also is because our hospital systems aren't built for a pandemic. They're not ready to handle all the normal flu cases in the ICU AND an addition double that amount in corona cases. As the hospitals struggle to meet the needs of the illness the number of healthy workers will drop too. It cascades.

That's why there's extreme measures being taken is to get the number of cases down, but also spread out over time. To 'flatten the curve'. Because if it works and nothing happens nobody will notice. But if it doesn't happen and it doesn't work the fatality rate is going to be very high, especially for the large swaths of the population over 55 or immune compromised.
 

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