Huge Chicken Coop

Not @WalnutHill here but speaking as one who IS experienced in putting up fence for very strong animals. I have had predators go through Chain-link properly set up chain-link. Tension bars, bottom wire, Even pipe top and bottom.

Chicken wire stretched and fastened properly is impressive in the whole with regards to strength and resilience. So is Paper, by the way. Same goes for ANY wire you want to use for fencing. It should be stretched evenly and supported properly in order to achieve its most efficient state. That means not over stretching it as well. You want spring back

BUT... You have to look at the weakest links. the individual components... Wire that is Nineteen gauge is .040 diameter at best... *(chicken wire) if it was made in china its .035 diameter... All before Galvanizing... Which only protects the wire from the elements. The spacing on that wire is 1/2 to 1 inch depending on what you buy.

A determined dog will Hit the wire with enough force to stretch it... even well stretched wire will give more... Then Hook nails in and pull... in a digging motion. Now the wire has enough bend in it for Tooth action to take place. Once that happens those teeth are like wire cutters. Raccoons dont use blunt force they have guile and hands... And the same amount of determination.

Hardware cloth is denser and can be supported more evenly .... but its weakest link too is at least sixteen gauge which is .068 in diameter... Harder to slam into and stretch out... harder to get teeth into...

and for those who want stats and reference materials Look up Modulus of elasticity in steel wire and wire gauges. I used Machinery's Handbook in my day.... but there is alot on the internet these days.

Wire gauges for what its worth the larger the number the finer the wire. same goes for sheet metal... My area of engineering.

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deb
 
No wire (including hardware cloth) is completely predator proof. I have had many predators (including raccoons) that couldn't break through the chicken wire. I have had a great experience using chicken wire and it isn't just luck, chicken wire works. Hardware cloth is no different and a predator could still break through it.
You are right.... Thats why you cant depend on a single component to keep your flock safe. Hot wire is a good choice...

but nothing beats eyes on and being there to defend.

Look I am not going to futher beat this topic... we arent going to convince you... I understand that... But there are others who are still searching out answers.... Its for those that I have joined the discussion.

and Yes I have lost whole flocks due to my not being diligent.....

deb
 
This is actually incorrect. Poultry netting/chicken wire is ineffective against even the smallest of predators as it is easily bent, stretched or pulled/chewed apart. Poultry netting alone will not protect your birds. You can combine out with heavier gauge wire, electric wire, etc and have a secure enclosure.

But if you had electric wire won't your chickens get electrified?
 
But if you had electric wire won't your chickens get electrified?
The wire is usually set on the side toward predator access. Electric fence chargers put out a pulse you can hear it on days when there is dew... and Yes if the chickens touch it they will get zapped. Usually the critter jumps away and looks like.... "what bit me" they will only touch it one or two more times then give it a wide berth.

deb
 
I say this a lot, but...

If you are worried about hawks and eagles, just put baler twine across your run spaced about 1-2 feet apart. This works for me, as I have seen hawks dive and they have been deterred by the twine. They SEE the twine, not run into it.
 
I say this a lot, but...

If you are worried about hawks and eagles, just put baler twine across your run spaced about 1-2 feet apart. This works for me, as I have seen hawks dive and they have been deterred by the twine. They SEE the twine, not run into it.
Works at the San Diego Zoo too to keep them in their enclosure... of course they dont use twine.... LOL. but the same principal applies

deb
 
The wire is usually set on the side toward predator access. Electric fence chargers put out a pulse you can hear it on days when there is dew... and Yes if the chickens touch it they will get zapped. Usually the critter jumps away and looks like.... "what bit me" they will only touch it one or two more times then give it a wide berth.

deb

Oh,
Don't they die when they get zapped?
 

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