i am moving from the USA

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If you keep your citizenship for ten years. Depends on how fast you can get your citizenship in the new country.

Also, if you change your citizenship everything you own and have title to will be considered subject to income tax in the year that you do change citizenship. That can be a very hefty amount.

Can you explain this more? I have relatives on both sides of the pond who have both changed citizenship completely and some who have become dual citizens. They never paid more than the regular income tax on their income, and the property taxes due on the property in the country they owned. For sure you don't pay property tax to two countries, and property that doesn't generate income doesn't result in income tax. But, that's only counting a few European countries that I know for sure don't do such things. Which countries count residential property among income?

Some countries require you to post a bond or show that you will have sufficient income to support yourself. No country wants poor people.

Yeah, all the EU countries require that you have sufficient income to last three years.

The powers that be in the US may possibly cut off social security payments to expatriots.

I doubt that. We have reciprocal agreements with many, many countries. Most Western versions of a "pension," be they Social Security or otherwise, are payable overseas. All private pensions for sure, you can collect anywhere in the world as long as you have a bank account to receive funds.

There is no medicare for those living abroad.

No, but most Western countries have some sort of government medical care that is provided to everyone including non-citizens. The US is one of the very few that doesn't. Just about anywhere you go, you'll actually be trading up in life span and quality of care.

If you have family roots in some countries, you may still be considered a citizen of that country even though your mother or father left that country years ago. That means that you may suddenly find yourself owning a considerable amount of taxes.

Which country specifically? The EU ones definitely do not do such things. I've never heard of the Asian countries doing that either.

Worse, you could be subject to a military obligation.

Depends on the country. Most are happy to exempt old farts like me.
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Although our freedoms wain, we still are a great nation. To where else could we run and enjoy such protections and rights as our unique constitution provides us?

No where. Many are similar, but none are alike. If this country is going to hell in a handbasket, which I am sure it is, I think its high time the people stop expecting the president, or senators or any facet of the government to solve these problems and unite to solve them ourselves.

The problem is that there simply ARE two very wide spread and strong points of view, and no way they could truly be reconciled, no matter how badly our country need it to be possible.
 
Read the law carefully, or better yet consult a good tax lawyer before you make any moves. We have tax agreements with many countries; you want to avoid those with whom we do not have agreements.

I thought that social security payments were pretty much safe; however it seems that when the stimulus checks went out, you pretty much needed to have an address in the US to get one. This makes me wonder about the future of social security for expatriates.

However, people with private mail forwarding systems seemed to have gotten their stimulus checks.

The question of duel citizenship is up in the air. When acquiring citizenship, the US requires one to renounce their prior allegence to other nations. It historically has been the position of the US government that one cannot have duel citizenship.

On the other hand, some nations hold the view that one cannot repudiate their citizenship.

To shed your US citizenship, you must appear before a US official and complete the appropriate paperwork. Giving up citizenship does not relieve you of your tax liability.

Be aware that without a US passport you might find it difficult to cross borders and visit some countries. For instance, if you assume Israeli citizenship and carry and Israeli passport, your ability to travel is really limited.

Look before you jump.

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They got all the cheap labor they need down there. Besides do you want to work for 50 cents an hour?

Nope. But I am not the one who wanted to move out of country. I just want to switch states.
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Time to construct my own island. Who wants to live under a despotic Empress that ruthlessly enforces the concepts of individual freedom and personal responsibility?
 
The powers that be in the US may possibly cut off social security payments to expatriots.

I doubt that. We have reciprocal agreements with many, many countries. Most Western versions of a "pension," be they Social Security or otherwise, are payable overseas. All private pensions for sure, you can collect anywhere in the world as long as you have a bank account to receive funds.

Think of Cuba. Of course the way around that is to open an account in an international bank.



Worse, you could be subject to a military obligation.

Think of Iran.

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You need to also check on health coverage..... I know of an older lady (citizen) who owned a villa in the Bahamas, she lost everything due to bad health. She did not pay into Medicare for years and years. She never thought she would ever move back to the states. She is now in a nursing home on Medicaid. She had regrets and had severe depression. Really sad case. Something to think about...
oh yeah, no health coverage in Mexico, just pop into Cali, they'll take care of you!
 
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They got all the cheap labor they need down there. Besides do you want to work for 50 cents an hour?

Nope. But I am not the one who wanted to move out of country. I just want to switch states.
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Colorado is nice. I liked NC when I was in Bragg. Bragg sucked real bad though. I like NC's lic plates.
 
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