Well, we can put them in the dumpster with DELL. I work with people and i ask alot of questions about products when i need to compare experiences. I have and HP now and and i have not had as bad of luck as you, but i still dont trust it/them. So, in all my asking, i have decided to go with the Imac next time i have to buy a computer. I have only heard how wonderful they are. I think they work better for the simple reason that they make their own software. All is made to work together and not against the computer. I know it might be hard to get used to, but its just sounding like its going to be the best way to go. All these companies take advantage of the consumer, i am so sick of it. I suggest you contact the better business bureau and see if they can help you with this HP problem. They fixed the people at DELL in less than 24 hours. I was very impressed. Good Luck. Wendy