I feel robbed...

[sourland]

I was trying to be tactful, was I too subtle?

Subtle is not your strong suit.

There is a wide range of possibilities as to the true nature of this situation.

 

[Bunnylady]

Subtle is not your strong suit.

There is a wide range of possibilities as to the true nature of this situation.

I hope you don't have any money riding on that!

And the "other possibilities" also factored into my original, "tactful" response.

 

[wildcat chix]

Wow, talk about passive-aggressive behavior. I wonder what 'other issues' there could be...
How is he about other pets; dogs or cats? Doesn't seem like any pet would be safe around him for long.

Again, wow.

 

[SarahBeth9394]

He might not be able to get a refund for the order. Remember we are only getting one side of the story. Yep the dad is being a jerk but who's to say that the daughter isn't really good at figuring out how to get her way so he gives in. My suggestion is that if the chicks are still coming she needs to just do a good job of taking care of the chicks and remembers to say thanks to her dad for letting her keep them. Good luck to all of them.

 

[cassie]

He might not be able to get a refund for the order. Remember we are only getting one side of the story. Yep the dad is being a jerk but who's to say that the daughter isn't really good at figuring out how to get her way so he gives in. My suggestion is that if the chicks are still coming she needs to just do a good job of taking care of the chicks and remembers to say thanks to her dad for letting her keep them. Good luck to all of them.

If he ordered from a hatchery he can get a refund for the purchase price minus a small cancellation fee.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

One other thought crossed my mind. Who has paid for the feed and other expenses for the birds? The father might feel entitled to the money as reimbursement for his expenses. Hard to say with only one side of the story.

 

[dainerra]

Another problem rises I told him that 20 of my d'Uccle chicks will arrive on 5/2/12 and he said that he's going to kill them all when they arrive. What should I do? I really want to protect my babies from harm from my father and he also wants to charge me $10 if they poop inside the house. He also has killed and eaten my baby turkey and my Porcelain d'Uccle pair without me knowing and without my permission. My gut tells me that he hates my chickens. When I live in my own ranch I will surely take all my chickens along to my very own ranch that way I don't have to worry about the safety of my pets.

Charging you $10 if they poop in the house? Sounds reasonable to me. The birds are your responsibility. If I were in his shoes, there would be no birds loose to poop in the house. Period. End of story. That's all there is to it. And I LOVE my birds. My kids let the chicks out in the living room ONE time. They cleaned up the mess and were banned from the chicks. If they brought a full-grown bird into the house and left it loose to poop? I don't know because I hope they have more sense than that.

It could very well be that he hates chickens. Or he now hates them because of what he sees as you not taking proper responsibility (pooping in the house, etc). He is going about it in a very wrong fashion and I won't excuse that. But it sounds like the two of you aren't on the same wavelength when it comes to the birds.

The part I highlighted is the key point of this whole argument. You are still living at home - it doesn't matter if you are 13 or 35, Dad's house = Dad's rules.

I think you're options are simple. Set down with dad and have a mature discussion on what he sees as a problem with the birds. Don't get defensive and see if you can work out a compromise (no birds in the house, for example). Then, depending on what rules Dad gives, decide if you can live within his guidelines. Remember, his house, his rules whether you think they are reasonable or not. If you can't abide by his decision, then don't get more birds.

 

[cassie]

Charging you $10 if they poop in the house? Sounds reasonable to me. The birds are your responsibility. If I were in his shoes, there would be no birds loose to poop in the house. Period. End of story. That's all there is to it. And I LOVE my birds. My kids let the chicks out in the living room ONE time. They cleaned up the mess and were banned from the chicks. If they brought a full-grown bird into the house and left it loose to poop? I don't know because I hope they have more sense than that.

It could very well be that he hates chickens. Or he now hates them because of what he sees as you not taking proper responsibility (pooping in the house, etc). He is going about it in a very wrong fashion and I won't excuse that. But it sounds like the two of you aren't on the same wavelength when it comes to the birds.

The part I highlighted is the key point of this whole argument. You are still living at home - it doesn't matter if you are 13 or 35, Dad's house = Dad's rules.

I think you're options are simple. Set down with dad and have a mature discussion on what he sees as a problem with the birds. Don't get defensive and see if you can work out a compromise (no birds in the house, for example). Then, depending on what rules Dad gives, decide if you can live within his guidelines. Remember, his house, his rules whether you think they are reasonable or not. If you can't abide by his decision, then don't get more birds.

You are right. But what raised alarm bells to me was his saying he ordered the chicks when he didn't, keeping the money when it wasn't his, butchering poultry that was not his, and saying he would kill the chicks if and when they arrived. This last is sadistic. If the information the OP posted is accurate, it sounds like he has a clinker in his thinker and the OP should get no more pets, save all the money she can, and leave home as soon as she is old enough. Just my opinion.

 

[dainerra]

You are right. But what raised alarm bells to me was his saying he ordered the chicks when he didn't, keeping the money when it wasn't his, butchering poultry that was not his, and saying he would kill the chicks if and when they arrived. This last is sadistic. If the information the OP posted is accurate, it sounds like he has a clinker in his thinker and the OP should get no more pets, save all the money she can, and leave home as soon as she is old enough. Just my opinion.

Agree. But, we don't know that he DIDN'T order them. Just that the OP has reason to believe that he didn't. For example, I ordered a t-shirt a few weeks ago online. PayPal was billed, etc etc. I never got a shipping email so went to check the order status - no sign of the order. Checked PayPal. Nope, no sign of payment, though I did get a confirmation email from them when I made the payment. What happened to the order? No idea?
Butchering the poultry, yes was cruel. But, in my house, the animals all belong to me. Mostly because I pay the vet bills, I buy the feed, it's my ultimate responsibility. So, yes, if I decide to kill the birds for dinner that is what happens. It's possible that he considers it the same way. Perhaps we are only getting part of the story again. Perhaps he feels that the birds weren't taken care of. Who knows.

For the last, yes no excuse for that. I second the "move out" option, no matter what. That is the only way, no matter your age, to be able to do as you please.