I need help and a second/third opinion... GOAT people!!

I would get your other doe from her when the time comes and then kiss her goodbye. Find another breeder for stud. Unfortunately there are a LOT of wacky breeders (of all species) out there and you can never know who to trust. I think she sounds like a great size for her age. I would personally wait until she's a year old to breed her, but with her size I don't think she'll have any problems being bred at 10 months as long as she keeps growing well. Good luck!
 
I hope you don't have any trouble getting your other goat from her. It sounds like she's had a change of heart about the deal.
 
I actually think you might be jumping the gun here, misunderstanding and getting worried over nothing. Your doe kid will grow out, just fine. I think the breeder was trying to say to you that the doe cant be bred just yet, that you need to be prepared to grow her out, even until she is 18 mths or so if she is a slow grower. I have an angora doe here who had a rough start to life and she is going to be bred at 2 yrs old.
 
I would try to get another goat NOW that you want from her not a stand in and then just be done with her. Find another stud. I have a very hard time dealing with people like that.
 
Well it looks like I have another Saanen doeling coming from fellow BYCer WisdomSeeker... Maybe two!
She did mean just this year, but I am having a hard time with her yoyoing back and forth on which goats I am supposed to be buying. She gave me the option to buy the Nigi doeling on the lease form and when I asked her about it she first said that yes, she is offering her for sale, but then did a 180 on me when I showed interest and said that they wanted her back!
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She is driving me absolutely batty. Then she changes her mind yet again and says it's my choice which one I take (she knows I cannot afford both the loaner Nigierian and the Saanen Dam that is still showing, as she is asking $350 for each of them).
Here's the other thing;
When I went out to her place the first time, I fell in her goat paddock and broke my ankle. Well, she kinda got nervous we think, that I would sue her which I would never do- accidents happen- and she gave me a very expensive French Angora rabbit buck for free, mind you he was in horrible shape because she hadn't groomed him forever, but still....
While there I put a deposit on a proven Nigi Doe (A), and a Saanen doe (B) that I fell in love with who was so friendly and loveable and for sale, for $150. Considering I was about to shell out $400 for the other Nigi Doe A $150 looked really good, especially for a doe who was going to give me one gallon of milk, versus the Nigi who would only give a quart.
Time passes, two weeks prior to my bringing my new goats home she e-mails me and begs me to change my mind on Saanen doe B because her teenage daughter is very attached to her and cannot let her go. She tells me that she had her best milking doe give birth to triplet does and that she doesn't need to keep all three, would I like to take one as a replacement for Saanen doe B, for the same price $150, which she tells me is really good because this doeling (C) has much better lines than doe B.
I agree to take Saanen doeling C. Some further talking and she tells me that Saanen doe C's dam (D) will be for sale, and perhaps since I have a good sized family, I'd want to change my deposit from Nigi Doe A and Saanen Doe B to Saanen doeling C and her Dam D. For my trouble she tells me that I can have a free breeding on doeling C when she is ready.
Are you confused yet?!
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Now to make things more complicated, Saanen doe C is available to come home anytime, but Saanen dam D is still showing and working on her milk star and won't be ready to come home until October-December 2009.
*Pants*
This puts me in a little bit of a delimma because I have no other goats at home. So she offers to "lease" me Nigerian doeling E to keep Saanen doe C company while I wait for D to be done showing and then E would go home to breeder, leaving me with C and D.

I take home C and E. I've had them 2 months now. I adore C, but my kids adore E even more. Thus I am semi excited when I see the option to purchase E on the lease form that she just mailed me.
I ask her about it. And she runs me around.

Here's what I think is going on. She only owns one Saanen buck, my doelings sire. When I asked her about who we would be breeding C to, she said it would either be a linebreeding back to her Sire, or she would have another buck by then.
I think she doesn't plan to buy another buck anytime soon and since she technically has two duplicates of my doe at home, why linebreed all three back to their sires?

A few days ago I answered an Ad on craigslist for two 12 week old Saanen doelings. I answered the Ad and low and behold, it was WisdomSeekers ad.
He called me tonight and offered me them. I talked to my husband who's head is also spinning with all this crap and he thinks it's a good idea to take one or both of his doelings, send my loaner Nigi back (SAD over this part) and be done with her.

What. A. Mess.
 
honestly - ask for all your money back, give her back any animals, and then run not walk away. do you really want to deal with this gal for the life of your/her goat!?!? yikes! or her showing up at your place wanting to visit her little friends? or calling you all the time? i think you've gotten too much of the old switchero and its time to cut your losses (or get them back) and get out of there.

there are LOTS of good breeders and owners out there that have loving, sweet, good milkers who need a good home. like the fellow BYCer!

the thing about to breed or not to breed (ever or this year) is a standard goat question that gets 9 million different answers (ok maybe not 9 million). its based on weight OR age - apparently you dont want to least of either (under weight or under age)....and it varies by who you ask.

i'm newish to goats and a goat LIKER not lover so i'm a little standoffish about the whole attachment thing. but i can let you know there are some crazy goat people out there - and there are also some normal/helpful/rational folks that are just waiting to help you/sell your their goat.

we have a mini mancha, a full sized la mancha, and a sanaan. its all working out very well but there are no guarantees about milk production. my la mancha out milks the sanaan every day! and there may be a lag for when the goat 'pays for itself' for family milking. i dont know about your area but $350 sounds a little high.

pm me if you want more of my oh-so-bossy opinion. after a season we think we have the milking thing worked out. we have reduced our feed costs and our grocery bill.
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good luck!
 
I'll just go with the first half of your topic and say yes, you do need
help.
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Have you paid for the one she has?

Perhaps goats are selling better there than here, but I can't get $50 for a registerable Sable. I ended up giving one away, to some Mexicans who proceeded to stuff her in a cat carrier and put her in the trunk.
 
Niiice.....

At this point I don't owe her a cent and I have not put any money on the other doe. I think I may just give back the Nigi and run with my lovely and completely paid for Saanen doe.
 
...and i'd avoid her calls
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sorry for all the hubbub! i've decided that people are crazy.
 

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