I thought guns were banned in England??

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Well it has been a while since I was in school and like I said your country has improved on its pesonal rights as of lately.

You must remember that our Bill Of Rights was modeled after Englands to some degree but was also formed from the areas of law that England abused or restricted. I am not a legal scholar but spend some time on legal forums enough to know there is a diffence enough worth noting.

Nuremberg was a preconceived notion, they accused were dead before they were tried and knew it. Military law is different and if a soldier is following orders at the guard level they are not guilty of anything but following orders. If that is the logic then they are all guilty of killing and should have all been shot.

I think you are confusing the issue here Chickened. The Nuremberg trials happened rather a long time ago and they were war trials. If you are referring to the old 'I was only following orders, excuse', you must agree that it is very easy to claim this when all the major protagonists are dead and cannot argue otherwise. Some witnesses I know survived to tell their ghastly tales, and following orders or not, a crime is a crime.

Regarding ordinary criminal trials I don't believe any right minded person would want an innocent person punished. I don't agree that a UK person has less protection under the law than a US citizen. You talked about the right to remain silent, but we have the same right. In fact the police caution says, 'You do not have to say anything ....' Surely this is just another way of saying 'You have the right to remain silent...' The Crown Prosecution Service must prove to the jury that the person is guilty, 'beyond all reasonable doubt'. Of course there can be unsound convictions, there is in any system, but there is the right of appeal, and as there is no capital punishment, no one would be sent wrongly to the gallows, unlike in some countries.