Yeah, I was just compairing the pics, they are their daddy's boys. I think I've known it for a while, I just wanted confirmation. They just looked like girls for so long, then it was like over night their saddles and hackles changed as did their combs, waddles, beaks and eyes and they doubled in size. Right now they're crowless and they're very docile, which thier father was at first, but after the 1st of 2 coyote attacks he started becoming nasty towards me (just me, everyone else was okay). After the 2nd attack, which left me with only him and 1 hen he decided he hated me to the point that I couldn't step out of the house with out getting attacked by him. I got him more ladies, but it didn't help so he eventually went to live with a guy down the road, where I guess he recently lost a fight with a hawk. If these 2 stay nice and don't get beat up by my other boys I'll keep them. Now I'm crossing my fingers that they take after their daddy in looks alone!