im in for a fight .....I LOST!!!!

[onecent]

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ill sure tell them!!! thank you!!!

 

[onecent]

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thank you for the email!!

 

[Pumpkinpup]

I will say a prayer for a positive outcome for you and your babies! I too will send a email on your behalf. In the city of Dallas, GA I had a small flock of 8 hens on 1/2 and acre with no problems. My neighbors all loved my girls and got eggs from me on a regular basis. I even had a local resturant owner who bought eggs from me sometimes to make her cakes with.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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hi, thank you for taking the time to do that, but that is for the county, I'm in the city, i cant find anything on the computer for the city, but they say no chickens! so im just going to see if i can change the ordinance.

Call and ask them to give the specific code reference or references that disallows chickens. If there is nothing that either specifically disallows them, or a blank statement that everything that is not specifically allowed is disallowed then they have absolutely no grounds for saying they are illegal.

 

[onecent]

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thank you ! i need prayers! the email is great too!

 

[onecent]

update.........animal control called me today, my chickens must be gone on Monday when he comes, he said just continue with my council meeting, and see if i can amend the law, so i filled out the paper work today so still set for Jan.12, he (animal control) told me, they aren't worried about me, its other people who will not be responsible chicken owners, hes worried people will have them running loose everywhere, so when i go to this meeting, should i suggest some rules? like maybe a permit, & enclosed run, decent coop, no loose chickens, maybe no more than 10? & like 3 complaints your out? what do ya all think? i believe if people had to spend money on a permit, they might be responsible owners, if you have any other suggestions please let me know, and i don't even know if i can do any of this at this meeting, the paper said i only have 5 minutes!

& please BYCers please send emails to [email protected] to let them know there are chickens in the cities and it does work! i need all the help i can get!!

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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FIRST, ask them what specific ordinance/code specifies that you cannot have chickens. Do NOT get rid of your chickens or even remove them from your yard without verifying that they are illegal. This means that once you have the reference to a specific ordinance or section of code that you need to actually read it (and all other related code). Just because Animal Control wants them gone does not mean that they have the right to dictate that.

Be polite, and be agreeable about wanting to comply with the law, but be firm that you need to see the actual wording of the code. You also need to look up the definition of livestock and pet to see if chickens are listed as livestock or not, and if there are specifics in the definition of "pet" that would allow or disallow your chickens to be included.

Next, you do NOT want to re-invent the wheel by creating new ordinances specifically for chickens (or any other single species). A nuisnace is a nuisance because it affets other people in a negative manner. The CAUSE of the nuisance is irrelevant--it could be a barking dog, loud power tools or a wild party at 3am. So, the important thing is to list how the CURRENT ordinances address any perceived nuisances that chickens might create.

Most communities require that animals/pets not be "at large," meaning that you must keep them on your property. HOW you do so is your responsibility. The same should apply to chickens. If you can keep them free-ranging inside your yard, then that should be sufficient; requiring that they be in an enclosed pen is not only overkill, but you will split the people who would like to see chickens being legal. I know I would VEHEMINANTLY oppose any suggestion that would tell me that they must be in an enclosed pen when I can keep them on my property without such.

I would also vehemintly oppose the idea of a permit.

Three complaints and you're out goes against the very fabric of our legal system. ANYONE can complain about anything. Whether that complaint is justified is another matter entirely.

Nuisances are primarily noise (time of day can figure into this), odor, health or safety concerns and unsightly buildings or property. CHances are very strong that your current code adequately addresses each of these--you just need to show how that code applies to chickens and how already existant remedies also apply.

 

[onecent]

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FIRST, ask them what specific ordinance/code specifies that you cannot have chickens. Do NOT get rid of your chickens or even remove them from your yard without verifying that they are illegal. This means that once you have the reference to a specific ordinance or section of code that you need to actually read it (and all other related code). Just because Animal Control wants them gone does not mean that they have the right to dictate that.

Be polite, and be agreeable about wanting to comply with the law, but be firm that you need to see the actual wording of the code. You also need to look up the definition of livestock and pet to see if chickens are listed as livestock or not, and if there are specifics in the definition of "pet" that would allow or disallow your chickens to be included.

Next, you do NOT want to re-invent the wheel by creating new ordinances specifically for chickens (or any other single species). A nuisnace is a nuisance because it affets other people in a negative manner. The CAUSE of the nuisance is irrelevant--it could be a barking dog, loud power tools or a wild party at 3am. So, the important thing is to list how the CURRENT ordinances address any perceived nuisances that chickens might create.

Most communities require that animals/pets not be "at large," meaning that you must keep them on your property. HOW you do so is your responsibility. The same should apply to chickens. If you can keep them free-ranging inside your yard, then that should be sufficient; requiring that they be in an enclosed pen is not only overkill, but you will split the people who would like to see chickens being legal. I know I would VEHEMINANTLY oppose any suggestion that would tell me that they must be in an enclosed pen when I can keep them on my property without such.

I would also vehemintly oppose the idea of a permit.

Three complaints and you're out goes against the very fabric of our legal system. ANYONE can complain about anything. Whether that complaint is justified is another matter entirely.

Nuisances are primarily noise (time of day can figure into this), odor, health or safety concerns and unsightly buildings or property. CHances are very strong that your current code adequately addresses each of these--you just need to show how that code applies to chickens and how already existant remedies also apply.

ok, i P.M.ed you.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

my mailbox is full--sent an email

 

[onecent]

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hi, i tried to send you an email, but this computer I'm on wont let me, my other computer got "fried" from a virus, and i think this one has a virus too! its very slow and i cant do to much with it,but i was asking you where do i find the laws & ordinances? every time i call the city just tells me they are not allowed, i have never seen anything in writing,and i cant find anything on the computer either, i even went to municodes.com.........nothing, i even googled it , still nothing! so wheres it at? if you can , you can email me, & ill see if i can get you a response back to you that way........thanks!