I'm Sending Feed to be Analyzed

[DavidReaves]

and here is how they prepared the chickens that laid those eggs.

For those who aren't interested in reading the first paper or the portion about prep:

"Here, we purified anti-spike-S1 IgYs from hens that were immunized with the S1 domain of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and interrogated their ability to neutralize SARS-CoV-2 pseudovirus ..."

The egg yolks studied were from COVID vaccinated hens.

This is further proof that Mike Adams is just looking for clicks. Much of his website is devoted to anti-vax pseudo-science. He's trying to generate clicks on his pages saying something like "The Man is trying to take away egg yolks that 'naturally' block COVID". It supports his overall anti-vax strategy for clicks, but neglects to mention that only vaccinated chickens produce yolk antibodies.

He's hoping that many people will take him at his word and not be able to understand the actual science. This is the same reason I doubt any results of "testing" he produces.



EDITED TO ADD:

Here is an example from his 'Natural News' partially citing the above-mentioned research and one other paper. The deceptive part is that he states that normal eggs have the antibodies and because of that he concludes the government is out to kill us all. I've highlighted (in purple) the key lie that is required for his entire premise.

"...Both studies, published two years apart by different authors, make the same conclusion: that ordinary egg yolks contain nutrients that function as neutralizing agents for covid spike proteins. And right on cue, eggs are now disappearing from store shelves while what little supply remains becomes unaffordable for the average person.

If it helps protect your health, the government wants it gone
It is no coincidence that once the cat was let out of the bag about the anti-covid benefits of eggs, laying hens suddenly had to be purged because of “bird flu,” leaving behind empty shelves and high prices at the grocery store..."

 

[U_Stormcrow]

I have only heard of this conspiracy theory after my mother showed me a video about it on Tic Tok I believe. And this thread. She told me I should look into it, and I also thought it was quite interesting that no one is testing their feed after making such big claims. I will definitely be watching for results. We had noticed a severe decline in egg production this winter that’s worse than we have ever experienced before. I get and average of one egg every couple of weeks(and that is stretching it) now since November/December. We use Purina feed. We have 4 birds that I believe are around 3 years old. I am not surprised about them not laying, but I am surprised about not getting eggs from my ten Jersey Giants(which I know are not the most prolific layers) that we got around March of last year. Before they stopped laying, we had an average of 3-4 eggs a day.
Sorry for the long post.

March of last year means they almost certainly laid through their first winter, making this the expected timeframe for their first adult molt, and a dramatic reduction in lay as their protein consumption is turned to feather replacement, rather than egg production (which naturally declines with reduced light levels anyways). So on both relative and absolute basis I believe you are seeing a dramatic (and predictable) reduction in rate of lay. Should improve shortly.

My egg production started climbing about three weeks ago, I get about 30 minutes more daylight than you do (more southern latitude).
and keep an eye on your mill dates, more than a few credible reports of old feed being sold. WHich won't turn off egg production, but is overall not good, and increases risk of mold, mildew, and similar concerns in the feed, in addition to vitamin loss from oxidation and fats going rancid.

 

[U_Stormcrow]

For those who aren't interested in reading the first paper or the portion about prep:

"Here, we purified anti-spike-S1 IgYs from hens that were immunized with the S1 domain of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and interrogated their ability to neutralize SARS-CoV-2 pseudovirus ..."

The egg yolks studied were from COVID vaccinated hens.

This is further proof that Mike Adams is just looking for clicks. Much of his website is devoted to anti-vax pseudo-science. He's trying to generate clicks on his pages saying something like "The Man is trying to take away egg yolks that 'naturally' block COVID". It supports his overall anti-vax strategy for clicks, but neglects to mention that only vaccinated chickens produce yolk antibodies.

He's hoping that many people will take him at his word and not be able to understand the actual science. This is the same reason I doubt any results of "testing" he produces.

In another study, they weren't even immunized against COVID. They were repeartedly dosed with a spike protein associated with some COVID variants. By analogy, the birds were taught to recognize the "Men in Back" by teaching them to look for dark sunglassess.

Antibodies in their egg yolks after the repeat dosing were then purified, and used to see if they were effective in recognizing (again by analogy) other people in dark glasses - they used an analog for SARS and SARS-COVID2 to which the same spike protein had been artificially attached. And then tested the potential for effectiveness by placing them all in the same room (lab dish)

Its a different process, but in theory* its much like extracting antivenom from horses subjected to intentional rattlesnake poisoning. Which in no way suggests that drinking horse blood makes you immune to rattlesnake bites.

*it does mark a significant improvement on the process, as the egg is already naturally filtered of many things which would otherwise need to be removed (as in the horse example), and its production is easier for those w/o benefit of 1st world labratories and production facilities.

 

[DavidReaves]

In another study, they weren't even immunized against COVID. They were repeatedly dosed with a spike protein associated with some COVID variants.

The key point being that they weren't "ordinary egg yolks."

Thanks for more information on this. I'm not as exhaustive a researcher as you, but even I can find the information to refute his claims. The key is to not do your "research" in echo chambers and circular references.

 

[U_Stormcrow]

The key point being that they weren't "ordinary egg yolks."

Thanks for more information on this. I'm not as exhaustive a researcher as you, but even I can find the information to refute his claims. The key is to not do your "research" in echo chambers and circular references.

I just read quickly. Until this AM, I wasn''t aware there were two different studies on how to prepare the hens, one with inactivated SARS, the other with the specific spike protein. I've had a few days to identify what I needed to read up on before posting.

Part of the way I maintain my illusion of competence is by not posting when I don't have time to double check (or at least familiarize). Admitting error when I inevitably make one anyways helps, too.

 

[Sally PB]

The crazy thing is that Gov'ts generally don't want their people to starve. Some of the best research in thew world right now on feeding chickens is coming out of places like China and India. WHY???

Because happy, well fed citizens rarely rise up in effort to overthrow their gov't. Even unhappy well fed citizens rarely rise up. Starving citizens??? Historically, they do rise up in efforts to overthrow their governments, having nothing left to lose (but their lives). Sure, they fail at it often, but sometimes they succeed.

This is a truth even the Romans knew, recall Juvenal's quote re; "panem et circenses" (bread and circuses).

The wife of a friend of mine is from Hungary (born in the late 1950s) and moved to this country when she was in her early teens. She remembers seeing people in line for something, and "you got in line. You didn't know if it was for shoes or toilet paper or oranges, but if people were in line, there was something worth standing in line for." She remembers food being very expensive, and liquor being very cheap. Her dad told her, "If you can keep the people drunk and hungry, you can do anything you want with them." (Maybe drunk people don't care if they're hungry?) They were VERY glad to leave.

Meanwhile, I can't wait to see what kind of BS Mike Adams comes up with.

 

[CrspyChkn]

March of last year means they almost certainly laid through their first winter, making this the expected timeframe for their first adult molt, and a dramatic reduction in lay as their protein consumption is turned to feather replacement, rather than egg production (which naturally declines with reduced light levels anyways). So on both relative and absolute basis I believe you are seeing a dramatic (and predictable) reduction in rate of lay. Should improve shortly.

My egg production started climbing about three weeks ago, I get about 30 minutes more daylight than you do (more southern latitude).
and keep an eye on your mill dates, more than a few credible reports of old feed being sold. WHich won't turn off egg production, but is overall not good, and increases risk of mold, mildew, and similar concerns in the feed, in addition to vitamin loss from oxidation and fats going rancid.

Yes, I am aware of the daylight changes. My mother had assumed that it is probably something else from this because it is even lower than usual this year and the conspiracy was out there. Good to know that old food will not cause a stop in egg production.

 

[3KillerBs]

That supports my point, you realize? Insect protein is cheap and requires relatively little space to produce, unlike say "cow".

Shrimp, Crabs, Lobster. All "bugs". Plenty of the world eats worms, spiders, grasshoppers, insects of all sorts. That we don't (generally) in the US, Canada, or Europe is rather 1st world elitest of us.

I'm OK being an elitist if I can keep eating worms, spiders, and insects via the eggs and meat from my chickens.

 

[Sally PB]

I'm OK being an elitist if I can keep eating worms, spiders, and insects via the eggs and meat from my chickens.

Then I've eaten a LOT of Japanese Beetles and grubs!

 

[3KillerBs]

Then I've eaten a LOT of Japanese Beetles and grubs!