Impossible to break broody. What is wrong with her?

The Texan

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Jan 19, 2015
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Warning! Old-fashion farmer here. This post may contain information and statements that are sensitive and may offend some. If you object or are offended by old-fashioned ideas and mentalities, please keep scrolling.

I moved to a new homestead in 2023 and bought some laying hens from a local person I found on Facebook. They sold me three black hens that they identified as "Black Stars". One of the hens went broody shortly after I bought them and refused to break. Having raised chickens for over forty years, I just left her alone, thinking that she would break naturally after a while, but she never did. After a couple of months, I decided to remove her nesting area, but she just found a new place. Finally, I penned her up with no place to nest. She literally starved herself to death with food and water right in front of her. I had never seen such behavior in all my life, so this was a completely unexpected result.

This year the other two black hens I got from that person went broody in April. It is August, and they are still broody. I have penned them up in an Air Cage to break them four times for up to a week each time, and they go back to being broody within a few days of letting them out. I have Roll-A-Way nests (eggs go into a hidden compartment) so there have never been any eggs for them to see or try to hatch. I also have no roosters, so there is no possibility of hatching chicks, and I absolutely do not want any chicks as I have almost 40 birds already. This is why I don't have any roosters. ;) Additionally, the Roll-A-Way nests are Vented nests themselves with no bottom and just a perforated plastic medium for hens to lay on. These hens are literally being broody in the AIR! They are staying broody in what could effectively be a Broody Breaker cage.

I have given up trying to break them. I am at the point of making soup out of them. I have zero use for such defective animals. I have raised chickens for over forty years and have never seen such behavior. My post is not to ask for ideas on how to break them. So please, no "The poor things just want to be mommies, give them some eggs" comments.

What I am trying to figure out is, what is wrong with them? I never want such defective animals again, so I want to understand why they are this way. Is there someone out there who is trying to break nature by intentionally breeding chickens toward this kind of insane broody behavior? Is this a breed problem? The way these hens are behaving is completely unnatural for chickens. What might be the cause?
 
Warning! Old-fashion farmer here. This post may contain information and statements that are sensitive and may offend some. If you object or are offended by old-fashioned ideas and mentalities, please keep scrolling.

I moved to a new homestead in 2023 and bought some laying hens from a local person I found on Facebook. They sold me three black hens that they identified as "Black Stars". One of the hens went broody shortly after I bought them and refused to break. Having raised chickens for over forty years, I just left her alone, thinking that she would break naturally after a while, but she never did. After a couple of months, I decided to remove her nesting area, but she just found a new place. Finally, I penned her up with no place to nest. She literally starved herself to death with food and water right in front of her. I had never seen such behavior in all my life, so this was a completely unexpected result.

This year the other two black hens I got from that person went broody in April. It is August, and they are still broody. I have penned them up in an Air Cage to break them four times for up to a week each time, and they go back to being broody within a few days of letting them out. I have Roll-A-Way nests (eggs go into a hidden compartment) so there have never been any eggs for them to see or try to hatch. I also have no roosters, so there is no possibility of hatching chicks, and I absolutely do not want any chicks as I have almost 40 birds already. This is why I don't have any roosters. ;) Additionally, the Roll-A-Way nests are Vented nests themselves with no bottom and just a perforated plastic medium for hens to lay on. These hens are literally being broody in the AIR! They are staying broody in what could effectively be a Broody Breaker cage.

I have given up trying to break them. I am at the point of making soup out of them. I have zero use for such defective animals. I have raised chickens for over forty years and have never seen such behavior. My post is not to ask for ideas on how to break them. So please, no "The poor things just want to be mommies, give them some eggs" comments.

What I am trying to figure out is, what is wrong with them? I never want such defective animals again, so I want to understand why they are this way. Is there someone out there who is trying to break nature by intentionally breeding chickens toward this kind of insane broody behavior? Is this a breed problem? The way these hens are behaving is completely unnatural for chickens. What might be the cause?
And you are absolutely sure they are broody? They aren't sick or have worms or something? If you are positive they are broody then I would cull them, like you said. And just stay away from that breed. There are a lot of hens that don't go broody, no need to waste time and money on farm animals that don't pay rent. I don't know why all three would have been so hard to break but that would be enough for me to stay away from that breed in the future
 
Oh, they are broody. No question about it. I have been raising chickens for over forty years in four different countries.

I guess am fascinated by the WHY of it. I have never seen chickens behave this way. I have owned many breeds, but never seen any behavior even close to this. It is just so unnatural. If birds behaved this way in nature, they would all go extinct. Natural Instinct pushes the drive to Survive. If a doe deer delivers a faun during a drought, she will abandon it to die, knowing that she does not have enough food to feed it and stay alive herself. The same is true for all other natural animals. Breeding and reproduction come secondary to Survival.

These hens are basically killing themselves trying to hatch eggs that do not exist. Something is definitely broken in their natural instincts. Since all three birds behaving this way are of the same breed, I can only assume that this abomination of unnatural behavior was caused by dedicated breeding efforts. Maybe someone wants hens that stay perpetually broody so they can use them as incubators to hatch one set of eggs after another.
 
Same breed from the same place it most likely is a genetic mental health issue going on. Everything that I have read regarding black stars is that they are a hybrid production breed meant to lay quite a few eggs while be low maintenance so breeding in broody qualities would be the opposite of what they are trying to accomplish with the breed. They also seem to have high review ratings so I would say it is genetic issue with the line and not breed specific. Just like with humans sometimes there are people who go to unhealthy extremes mentally, emotionally and physically in attempt to have a child that it reaches beyond what is normal and into the realm of a severe mental health issues. Mental health issues can absolutely be genetic and inherited. I purposely have broody breeds because I prefer them over an incubator. However, if I had a broody that starved herself to death in the process and then her sisters also started showing the same signs I would cull the lot.
 
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Same breed from the same place it most likely is a genetic mental health issue going on. Everything that I have read regarding black stars is that they are a hybrid production breed meant to lay quite a few eggs while be low maintenance so breeding in broody qualities would not be the opposite of what they are trying to accomplish with the breed. They also seem to have high review ratings so I would say it is genetic issue with the line and not breed specific. Just like with humans sometimes there are people who go to unhealthy extremes mentally, emotionally and physically in attempt to have a child that it reaches beyond what is normal and into the realm of a severe mental health issues. Mental health issues can absolutely be genetic and inherited. I purposely have broody breeds because I prefer them over an incubator. However, if I had a broody that starved herself to death in the process and then her sisters also started showing the same signs I would cull the lot.
I agree. Maybe it is just a genetic anomaly specific to them. I guess it is time for chicken and dumplings.
 
Some people need broody hens to breed their own chickens. Since you state you're an old fashioned farmer, you should know that most farmers in the past needed broody hens to have a meal, or to earn a living by selling chicks.
Centuries ago broody hens were a blessing.
Your hens would probably not starve themselves to death if they were allowed to breed, which is the most natural thing in the animal kingdom. They would most likely break themselves once they hatched and raised some chicks. What is not natural are birds that don't sit on eggs and also breaking broodiness is not natural.
Now you don't need more birds so just cull all the broodies and that will solve the problem, but it's unfair to hate on a bird who just wants to do what birds did for millions of years.
 
I have a cochin that is broody from April to September every year.
The only plus is that she lays eggs all winter.

She's the only one of her breed I have and I'll never get another.
 
I had an Easter egger hen go broody and I could not break her. I tried everything. She did end up dying of a crop issue. Extremely malnourished. Was awful.
 

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