inbreeding question

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by fowlsessed, Nov 28, 2011.

  1. fowlsessed

    fowlsessed Chillin' With My Peeps

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    If I breed a pair of chickens, and then take their offspring to breed, would inbreeding happen if I was to breed back to the parents, breed sibling to sibling or both? I really don't want to have to get a new rooster every time I want to breed my chicks.
     
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  2. stephanie1992

    stephanie1992 Chillin' With My Peeps

    many people interbreed. my ag teacher interbreeds his birds and never had a problem. they are all show birds and always do great
     
  3. sjarvis00

    sjarvis00 Chillin' With My Peeps

    May 4, 2009
    Shawnee, OKlahoma
    Quote:You are reffering to line breeding. If you are starting from a select pair or trio the folowing will work well.
    Current Cock=C1
    Current Hen=H1

    Year 1, C1xH1=O1

    Year 2
    C1xO1=BC1A
    O1xH1=BC1B

    Year 3,4,5,
    BC1AxBC1B
    C1xO1=BC1A
    O1xH1=BC1B

    You will have no problems that do not genetically exist within your breed stock and can keep the line going for many generations, and many many years
     
  4. Ridgerunner

    Ridgerunner True BYC Addict

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    There are different types of inbreeding. Someone that really knows what they are doing can get by OK for several generations, sometimes indefinitely, by being selective in picking their breeders. For people with my skill level and conditions, it does not work that way. One big element is how many different chicks you hatch so you may have more to choose from and how many different roosters and hens you have providing chicks.

    You never know what traits your chickens have when you start off. It is possible you could have some defective genes that will really mess it up. Possible, but not usual. Most of us can do fine breeding chickens without introducing outside genes for three, four, maybe five generations, even if we are not experts. You do need to be a little careful in selecting which chickens you keep for breeding purposes, hens as well as roosters. Obviously don't breed chickens with physical deformities, like cross beaked or deformed feet. But also look at other traits a bit. If you want good egg layers, try to hatch chicks from hens that lay well. If you want meat, you might select a rooster that is bigger rather than smaller. And watch for behavioral traits too. Aggressive hens and roosters tend to have aggressive offspring. I can't tell you everything to look for, but just select for your breeders chickens that you want the offspring to be like.

    The problem for people like me is that our flocks can lose genetic diversity after a few generations, especially if we don't have several different hens and roosters to breed. So it is usually a good idea to bring in a new rooster every three, four, or five generations to get new genes in the gene pool, especially if you only keep one rooster with your flock.

    You are dealing with living animals so no one can give you any guarantees, but many of us do OK inbreeding chickens for our flocks. Good luck!!!
     
  5. Ducks and Banny hens

    Ducks and Banny hens Chillin' With My Peeps

    Nov 22, 2011
    On a little Farm.
    Have you considered Spiral Breeding?
    What you have to do (Step 1) is save at least (this is neccesary) 3 pairs of the offspring. Name each pair like a tribe or something (let's use A, B, C, as an example).

    Tribe A produces offspring.
    Tribe B produces offspring.
    Tribe C produces offspring. (all offspring will be siblings of others from the same tribe).

    (Step 2)
    Pick a new male from each tribe.
    Pick a new female from each tribe.

    Rotate the males. This means taking the male you picked from tribe A and setting him up with the new hens from tribe C. (A-C, C-B, and B-A)

    Breeding takes place...

    (Repeat Step 2 forever)

    From step 2, if you had 3 tribes, ine three years all offspring would be cousins 9 times removed from all other non-sibling offspring. You can do this forever without inbreeding. The tribes will always be cousins 9x removed as long as you keep rotating males in the same direction. (I prefer to kep open 4 tribes, which gives me 12 times removed cousin offspring)

    Sure hope this helps.

    Sure hope you can understand this. It's complex, but very effective.
     

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