Incubating shipped eggs help!!

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Hey everyone, I am trying to decide if it's worth buying some pretty expensive eggs online and have them shipped. I am probably only going to get 6 eggs and I have no idea how to care for shipped eggs so if I don't have a chance of them hatching I don't want to get them. Any advice?
 
Depends on what breed you are getting. Tell us that and we may be more help.
Some breed eggs do better with shipping than others, though it is always better if you can get them local without shipping.
Usually you only get 50 percent hatch on shipped eggs. Some times better, but rarely.
 
I don't know anything about them, but I fairly sure someone on here will chime in eventually.
If they do handle shipping well, I suggest getting twice as many eggs as you want chicks.
 
It is pretty warm out for shipping eggs right now, I usually get very poor hatches when the temps get warm with shipped eggs. It is not the seller BTW, the post office does not give any special consideration to hatching eggs, I'm sure they sit in the super HOT trucks for hours on their trips. I have had 100% hatches from shipped eggs and 0% also, so I guess it probably averages out to about 50%.
 
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I purchased 9 shipped eggs to put under broody from ebay. Only 3 are currently developing and are on second week. They are silkie eggs. Kind of disappointed but thats the chance you take.
 
Here's my 2 cents...buying shipped eggs is putting lots of faith in a lot of other people, the seller and the usps. It stinks. However, sometimes, it's the only chance there is to get the breeds and type you want...the good stuff besides hatchery quality, that is. I have been hatching since January with eggs from a flock of my own and eggs I have bought off of here and ebay. I have bought from about 10 sellers. There has been only been a few good transactions and hatches. People are very misinformed and misunderstanding things from what I have gathered. Like with the USPS and insurance claims. Broken eggs with a smashed box from the USPS...if its shipped flat rate priority, they will send you a check if you file a claim...priority flat rate comes with insurance.

I have had way too many infertile eggs with sellers of shipped eggs! Really really ticks me off! They have no right to take peoples money if they don't continually monitor their eggs but people get greedy and don't want to sacrifice an egg to check for fertility or to incubate. People will say that the USPS causes the low hatch rate...bull! if those air cells are good, the egg will develop as long as its fertile...it may not hatch after development but at least the seller protected the egg and made sure they were fertile. I know infertiles happen so that's why people usually send an extra or two. It's a matter of checking their own eggs and some people just don't do it...they assume. But if the feedback doesn't reflect, how will others know?

So...there was a thread on leaving feedback that I was trying to find. As a buyer everyone needs to wait and leave feedback after you see or don't see veining. Not on the condition of the shipped eggs. Anyone can package like a slob with loose eggs and there are no broken eggs. Just because there are no broken eggs doesn't mean they have a right to a positive feedback.

There is a seller selling eggs on ebay right now. Chucked 2 old eggs with huge cells right on day 1...then after 7 days, more than half the eggs clear. i crack em open...infertile! grrrr. The eggs are infertile and I told them that and they blame the USPS...ummm no...the air cells were intact and you can clearly see the difference between fertile and infertile. I just read someone feedback to them that said the same thing. After a few of those, people will see and make a change. I was too easy on the seller when I left feedback because 5 did hatch...but the rest out of 16 were infertile and or old...seller has the idea that that is normal..."a 50% hatch rate is average with shipped eggs" yeah, 50% of the developing ones! not "chuck more than half right from the start"-that isn't the hatch rate! I didn't dispute it because there was 5 babies.

Seller's are real quick to say "not responsible" and "no refunds" "once it leaves my hands" blah blah but I say that's all bull. If a seller packs ridiculous and or ships infertiles I will be vocal about it sometimes even disputing with them, getting money back, so they don't keep doing the same to others. If they give money back a few times, I guarantee they will tighten up their shipping practices. Well, that goes for ebay. Other places to get eggs wont back up a buyer like ebay. What would stop sellers from selling bunk eggs saying "I wont be responsible for hatch rates" "leave feedback based on packaging" and just keep on collecting money all the while getting good feedback for no broken eggs...no.. but you "ARE responsible to your sellers for packing a secure fertile product, and if you don't, you will pay me back."

There is a right way and a wrong way to ship eggs. Many different materials can be used as long as they are so tight that the eggs cant move. Now after going thru so many bad deals, I am very specific to what I want, they way I want them shipped, and the writing on the outside of the box. I dont demand bubble wrap or anything, if its done right, newspaper works. After all my bad deals, I am discouraged in selling eggs online and instead just going to hatch em all myself and sell chicks.

I was wanting these eggs on ebay from a seller that has some of the highest priced eggs on the market. If I am going to pay that price I want to know some things so I ask...they never respond and their eggs are left unsold. I would have paid the high price but not with no answers to my questions.

I also don't want to hatch less than a dozen. 50% hatch rate makes 6 and 4 will be culls. Those last two will probably be roos and with luck out of dozen eggs to start i might get a hen. lol too many to cull sell. I hope I don't have to buy from ebay again because it is a little stressful when it doesn't go right. And arguing with people over it is bad. If i see someone has hundreds of specific feedbacks of developing embryos and their description kinda tells a story and is very descriptive with lots of pictures, then I go for it. I have had great hatches from eggs across the country and terrible ones from 100 miles away.

Wow I typed a novel! I'll probably get the "people like you" hate mail for this but oh well. At least you heard how it can be.

My beautiful flock is because people shared their flock via eggs so it's not like I am completely down on it. If it werent for shipped eggs, I'd still have a hatchery flock. I could maybe have saved a lot of money if I had been more aware from the start how people would be so sloppy and careless about shipping eggs.
 
"the air cells were intact and you can clearly see the difference between fertile and infertile."

How exactly are you telling if they are infertile? There are many, many things that can kill the egg once it is fertilized. Heat, wrong hunidity (to dry), shock (both trauma from hot/cold and sudden stops), no cell respiration (i.e. no oxygen exchange), ect. Unless you are looking at the mass of cell produced at fertilization, which would be degraded by day 7 in a dead egg then you can't say if it were fertile or not. Just because it didn't start to develop after shipping does not mean it was not viable when it was shipped.
 
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crack it open. look inside. blastodisc, blastoderm. if it started to incubate and stopped it would be obvious. On day 7, if it is clear, open it. The proof is in the egg.
 
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"If it started to incubate" is the key, there are many ways the embryo can die prior to you getting the eggs. That does not boil down to bad managment. I'm not saying everyone selling eggs is honest but if you are the buyer you know the outcome is going to be less than ideal, infact is often times terrible. If you can't handle diappointment then don't buy shipped eggs. On the other hand, spending $120.00 on 6 eggs could get you three chicks to start your breeding program like it did for me last year on one of my breeds. Well worth the price of not taking off work and driving across the country to get them.
 
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