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[casportpony]

Sorry, this stuff fascinates me.

-Kathy

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

Quote: Yup - and when I cleaned out the brooder yesterday (it was due anyway, but especially with the baby with probable cocci), I discovered that they had spilled a decent bit of water into the bedding and I had missed it (tracking under the dry stuff). That would do it...

- Ant Farm
awesome!! hope your feeling well Kristin!! Also that stuff molds very quickly and that will cause major issues too!
I AM feeling better today, thank you. Slowly better. Been doing laundry and kitchen chores, and cooking some eggs for the chickens and chicks. About to head out to finish mowing before it rains, then plant the blackberries in that new spot.

The chick is about the same - no better, no worse. Cannot stand at all or use its legs - makes me wonder about the mold thing. (Mercifully all other chicks are perfectly fine.) I will continue to tend it for now, but am starting to get the sinking feeling that I will end up needing to cull it (if not to end suffering, then for the good of my breeding program). But I will give it a shot - and I always learn something when I tend a sick chick/en even if it doesn't make it.

@Fire Ant Farm , the purple on the belly could be the color of his intestines showing through. Make sense? Google coccidiosis in poultry photos and I think you see what I mean.

Drench for the whole 5 days is probably fine if he's not drinking enough.

-Kathy

That's what I suspected (I've seen those hemorrhagic intestine photos before), just didn't know if there was something else I didn't know about... Baby is still having liquid diarrhea, though now I'm wondering at this point whether some of that is related to me giving it so many fluids. Just using Sav-A-Chick for now (plus the drench). I'm not sure if it'll make it, we'll see. I'll do my best...

I gave the new chicks some scrambled eggs this morning. Once they got over the "are you trying to poison us?" thing, they started having a lot of fun playing keep-away with pieces all morning. I gave some eggs to Tank and his girls - he's such a good rooster, and so funny. He wouldn't eat any himself, but picked up a big piece, carried it several steps away, dropped it, and tidbitted to the girls: "Hey, baby, look what I found for you! Look how I take care of you..."

OK, I need to go out and get some chores done...

- Ant Farm

 

[casportpony]

Good morning all. My quote button failed! Thank you for the Quail advice! CH, great job at the swap!!

My Gimpy chick is the same. It's got a fluffy belly, how can I check for purple spots? Get her wet? There is no diarrhea

Again, I'm not seeing any other signs of Cocci, but the chicks did have access to wet feed. Should I treat everyone or wait for the necropsy results from the first dead chick?

Thanks!!

Can you post a picture of her poop?

-Kathy

 

[Jessimom]

Lol! I've had the big ones chew a hole in a plastic bag in the ten minutes it takes to drive from the feed store to here!

-Kathy

LOL, I had red wigglers in a worm bin. I picked them up in a paper lunch sack. Something that ate through Styrofoam would give me nightmares!!!!

 

[casportpony]

 

 
@Sally Sunshine
   Thank you for the info!!   My baby seems to have an injury to her hip.  When I pick her up, her right leg with straighten, but when she starts to straighten the left, you can tell it hurts.  She won't stand up, because she can't put any weight on her left leg.  She is eating and drinking.

Should I treat all the chicks as if we do have it?  Or should I wait until I hear back from the necropsy?  

The rest of the chicks are active and healthy looking.

Thanks!

I am not sure when you say the leg issues!!  that is strange!! they couldnt have gotten moldy feed or anything right? 

 

 
How to Prevent
Chickens from Getting Coccidiosis
A few good management practices will help control coccidiosis. Contact your veterinarian for full details.

• Anticoccidial drugs mixed in the feed are used to limit high levels of infection.
• Keep chicks, feed and water away from droppings.
• Roost birds over wire netting if brooding arrangements make this possible.
• Place water vessels on wire frames to eliminate a concentration of wet droppings, in which the chicks can walk to pick up or spread the disease.
• [COLOR=FF0000]Keep litter dry and stirred frequently. Remove wet spots and replace with dry litter.[/COLOR]
• Avoid overcrowding.
• If coccidiosis does break out, start treatment immediately.

That's the only one that is really necessary. Coccidia can't complete their lifecycle without moisture.

Yup - and when I cleaned out the brooder yesterday (it was due anyway, but especially with the baby with probable cocci), I discovered that they had spilled a decent bit of water into the bedding and I had missed it (tracking under the dry stuff). That would do it... 

- Ant Farm 

awesome!! hope your feeling well Kristin!!    Also that stuff molds very quickly and that will cause major issues too!

I AM feeling better today, thank you. Slowly better. Been doing laundry and kitchen chores, and cooking some eggs for the chickens and chicks. About to head out to finish mowing before it rains, then plant the blackberries in that new spot. 

The chick is about the same - no better, no worse. Cannot stand at all or use its legs - makes me wonder about the mold thing. (Mercifully all other chicks are perfectly fine.) I will continue to tend it for now, but am starting to get the sinking feeling that I will end up needing to cull it (if not to end suffering, then for the good of my breeding program). But I will give it a shot - and I always learn something when I tend a sick chick/en even if it doesn't make it.

[@=/u/350041/Fire-Ant-Farm]@Fire Ant Farm[/@], the purple on the belly could be the color of his intestines showing through. Make sense? Google coccidiosis in poultry photos and I think you see what I mean.


Drench for the whole 5 days is probably fine if he's not drinking enough.


-Kathy

That's what I suspected (I've seen those hemorrhagic intestine photos before), just didn't know if there was something else I didn't know about... Baby is still having liquid diarrhea, though now I'm wondering at this point whether some of that is related to me giving it so many fluids. Just using Sav-A-Chick for now (plus the drench). I'm not sure if it'll make it, we'll see. I'll do my best...

I gave the new chicks some scrambled eggs this morning. Once they got over the "are you trying to poison us?" thing, they started having a lot of fun playing keep-away with pieces all morning. I gave some eggs to Tank and his girls - he's such a good rooster, and so funny. He wouldn't eat any himself, but picked up a big piece, carried it several steps away, dropped it, and tidbitted to the girls: "Hey, baby, look what I found for you! Look how I take care of you..."

OK, I need to go out and get some chores done...

- Ant Farm 

Can you get some Kaytee baby bird food?

-kathy

 

[rIrs roost]

I don't know you well, but I have a feeling that "going" is the wrong word!

For not knowing me very well you've hit the nail on the head .

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

@Fire Ant Farm and anyone else interested in coccidia:
http://www.uoguelph.ca/omafra_partn...a/Monitoring-for-success---Lesion-Scoring.asp

-Kathy

Thanks! I also understand that certain forms, depending on what portion of the intestinal tract is affected, will permanently affect the egg laying ability of a pullet.

Quote: Yup - and when I cleaned out the brooder yesterday (it was due anyway, but especially with the baby with probable cocci), I discovered that they had spilled a decent bit of water into the bedding and I had missed it (tracking under the dry stuff). That would do it...

- Ant Farm
awesome!! hope your feeling well Kristin!! Also that stuff molds very quickly and that will cause major issues too! I AM feeling better today, thank you. Slowly better. Been doing laundry and kitchen chores, and cooking some eggs for the chickens and chicks. About to head out to finish mowing before it rains, then plant the blackberries in that new spot.

The chick is about the same - no better, no worse. Cannot stand at all or use its legs - makes me wonder about the mold thing. (Mercifully all other chicks are perfectly fine.) I will continue to tend it for now, but am starting to get the sinking feeling that I will end up needing to cull it (if not to end suffering, then for the good of my breeding program). But I will give it a shot - and I always learn something when I tend a sick chick/en even if it doesn't make it.

@@Fire Ant Farm , the purple on the belly could be the color of his intestines showing through. Make sense? Google coccidiosis in poultry photos and I think you see what I mean.


Drench for the whole 5 days is probably fine if he's not drinking enough.


-Kathy

That's what I suspected (I've seen those hemorrhagic intestine photos before), just didn't know if there was something else I didn't know about... Baby is still having liquid diarrhea, though now I'm wondering at this point whether some of that is related to me giving it so many fluids. Just using Sav-A-Chick for now (plus the drench). I'm not sure if it'll make it, we'll see. I'll do my best...

I gave the new chicks some scrambled eggs this morning. Once they got over the "are you trying to poison us?" thing, they started having a lot of fun playing keep-away with pieces all morning. I gave some eggs to Tank and his girls - he's such a good rooster, and so funny. He wouldn't eat any himself, but picked up a big piece, carried it several steps away, dropped it, and tidbitted to the girls: "Hey, baby, look what I found for you! Look how I take care of you..."

OK, I need to go out and get some chores done...

- Ant Farm
Can you get some Kaytee baby bird food?

-kathy
Yeah, I was wondering whether I should get some of that (have read that being used with other sick birds). Would I find it at PetSmart? I need to go get a long garden hose anyway, can get it while I'm out...

- Ant Farm

 

[Jessimom]

Can you post a picture of her poop?

-Kathy

I just changed the wood chips out and put in a puppy pad. As soon as they poop, I'll post a picture.

 

[Pensmaster]

LOL, I had red wigglers in a worm bin. I picked them up in a paper lunch sack. Something that ate through Styrofoam would give me nightmares!!!!

If picking up the worms is the problem try these they work really well. Don't know about meal worms but earthworms for sure

Also I was wondering about the wood chips. It seems like ant farm is using them too.

 

[Granny Hatchet]

Two what??? Tolbunt polish??

("She" is a agressive sultan roo..... TAKE HIM!

)
But yes, he is oh-so-cute. Want some of his babies? (EEx)

Ok then. Night

I was teasing hun, what you won was a pair of socks I was offering 2 pairs. I was joking you. I do think he is beautiful . I dont even have a pair of tolbunts unless you count the rooster with the broken leg. .

Thank you for the offer

@BantyChooks