INCUBATING w/FRIENDS! w/Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs No problem!

[Akrnaf2]

Omg omg omg there here there her my ayam cimani eggs are here.and great great packaging @cjwaldon

That exactly!
All this,
Omg,omg,omg
Help, help, help
Sally, Sally, Sally
Ect, ect ,ect.........

 

[meltel]

I don't know about anybody else but I would love to see a picture of @chickenhawk eggs in the perfectly calibrated incubator with fan (after he lets them sit to settles large end up for 24 hours of course but I'm sure he already knows that) I love to see people's set ups especially when they are super excited with rare eggs!!!!!!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

@TJChickens
@ChickenCanoe

question.... it sometimes gets down to 45 in my livingroom until I get up in themorning, the conure Sammy is in there, What is too cold for him?

And should I get one of these? they are 35 bucks and I dont want to get it if he will be ok. it looks like the perch next to it.... he has a house fabric thingy


also how often should he moult? he is sparse on the back of the head right now.








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[Sally Sunshine]

Quote: lol I cant say much on this one...... as I would be pretty ecstatic too if those eggs came to me at his age!

 

[DwayneNLiz]

yes love, I sure did! twice I think?

I am a sucker for black and that red is cool! and they are unique

nope

Ugh I cant catch up.... I found these on ebay in search of a cheaper yet safe heating lamp for serama or goat kids if needed

Thoughts suggestions please? Paddler I do have the link to your comments on this before,

@ChickenCanoe you ordered fromchina before? sorry space bar ughh it says epackage? or something



http://www.ebay.com/itm/Livestock-a...802670?hash=item1eb763feae:g:qt0AAOSwi0RXyDRu


also seen this video on this one DIY

i order from china quite often, can take 4 weeks to receive

Omg omg omg there here there her my ayam cimani eggs are here.and great great packaging @cjwaldon

make sure to let them rest
AND calibrate

AWESOME!! we will make sure you have zillions to catch up on!!!

thanks, not lol

I think a thank you card might be a nice thing for you to send @chicken hawk 33

have a good time.... Always wanted a camp.....

i am trying to sell ours !

@mlm Mike


Who thinks Mike needs to incubate all my eggs so I dont?????????

I DO I DO

except those serama, he dont do heat lamps and majority is from frizzle pen

Yes!!!!!
i would love them but i dont want to heat them lol
and i want to focus on polish

More scale pictures:

9-27

And today (9-28)



9/24/2016 9/25/2016 9/26/2016 9/27/2016 9/28/2016

80 68 64 62 65
79 73 70 67 68

finally going up
and totally cute!!

awesome and thanks! sometime can you take pics of how you brood etc and keep your peas from hatch up?

you thinking of getting Peas again?? @Sally Sunshine

 

[Chaos18]

....
I saw it before, benny I can kill a quail in hands and hold it quivering but there is no way I am holding a chicken while its doing that.
....

Ain't no difference in holding a flopping quail and holding a flopping chicken, just bigger flops.

@mlm Mike


Who thinks Mike needs to incubate all my eggs so I dont?????????

I DO I DO

except those serama, he dont do heat lamps and majority is from frizzle pen

I DO I DO I DO!!!

Have you given up coffee? Is that why you keep taking the coffee guy down?

That'll be a cold dayin H-E-Double hockey sticks before that ever happens.

 

[Akrnaf2]

No no it is the wrong minutes! Try

46:00 - 48:00

He makes it look easy. Is he a Rabbi? Is the knife made of gold?

Yes he is,
And the knife is made
From one of the finest steel!
This knife can reach to 3000 shekels, almost 800$ it uses only for that and it is extremely sharp and smooth to minimize the agony to the animal.
If you want I can up load a sheep dispatched and you will see that it isn't a problem too, an if you want I can uploads a clip of a bull and you want believe how fast it is.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote: I know, I look daily ughhhh

I don't know about anybody else but I would love to see a picture of @chickenhawk eggs in the perfectly calibrated incubator with fan (after he lets them sit to settles large end up for 24 hours of course but I'm sure he already knows that) I love to see people's set ups especially when they are super excited with rare eggs!!!!!!

 

[BantyChooks]

I know, I look daily ughhhh

Wouldn't they look AMAZING through an incubator lid??

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote: NO!!!! unless I get more land

Quote:








CHICKEN HAWK look below!

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Shipped Eggs = Change Of Plans!
Shipped eggs have a MUCH lower hatch rate, even with experienced hatchers! ​

BELOW ROLLING AIR CELL OF A SHIPPED EGG
Rolls like a Carpenters Level

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SHIPPED EGGS & Malpositions!
BELOW ARE "SADDLE" SHAPED AIR CELLS

SADDLE SHAPED AIR CELLS are very COMMON with shipped eggs!​

Saddle shaped is when ​

one or both sides have a large "dip" in the air cell.​

A lot of times with saddle shaped cells the chick doesn’t position correct for hatching and their feet can easily get stuck behind their head and “smoosh” the chick so they can’t move, it can also force the yolk sack and everything more north in the shell.... Keep a close eye on these eggs and its VERY important to pencil mark Air cells! Issues Step by Step Guide to ASSISTED Hatching​

saddles below
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Jiggly eggs are when the air cell​

has a small amount of movement at the top! ​

UNDERSTANDING what goes WRONG with SHIPPED EGGS
The yolk of an egg is held in place on each end by what is called Chalaza. These are delicate cords that keep the yolk centered in the egg. When you crack open an egg, you notice a white stringy thing on the yolk, this is the Chalaza. When eggs are shipped they encounter postal handlers that toss the packages, sorting machinery, bumpy vehicle rides, temperature changes and possibly X-ray Machines! So by the time the eggs get to you they are pretty much scrambled inside. So if you are going to buy eggs and have them shipped to you, be aware that the viability drops TREMENDOUSLY. There are rare instances when they ALL arrive safely but it is always a gamble.
See Egg anatomy here http://www.geauga4h.org/poultry/egg_parts.htm



~ CONCLUSION ~
Shipped Eggs How & When to Set!

"Settle" & Setting of eggs
Shipped eggs need to be left to warm to room temperature
& need to settle B4 adding to the incubator!
This "settle" time will vary depending on the age of the eggs, DO NOT TURN THEM!!
if the air cells are large they are already getting old! Most shipped eggs are getting old!
Settle 6 hours and then set (begin incubation) if they are getting old and have large air cells. But continue to read below for Rolling, Ruptured, Jiggly Air cell info!
If Eggs are FRESH you can settle for 12-24 hours.
REMINDER~ Never Set COLD eggs in the incubator.

EGGS WILL NEED DIFFERENT TREATMENTS Should YOU have BAD AIR CELLS......


If an egg has a NORMAL INTACT AIR CELL:
Normal air cell eggs, settle 12-24 hrs if FRESH, IF OLD 6 hours and
then begin to incubate these upright and you may begin turning, you may lay horizontal or upright for hatching. Most people like to hatch upright for shipped eggs.
PLEASE PLEASE READ THE TURNING SECTION of this article FIRST!
If you can turn more than 3x a day PLEASE PLEASE turn them!! 3 is minimum amount!


For ROLLING AIR CELLS:
(cells no longer at fat end of the egg but like a bubble level on the long side, see above video)
Follow SETTLING EGGS ABOVE DO NOT TURN
Set in incubator Upright/AIR CELL UP/FAT END UP and
do not turn for 3 days once set in the bator AT LEAST!
CANDLE ONLY FROM ABOVE LEAVE THEM IN THE BATOR DURING CANDLE
If after 3 days and you have embryo growth and the air cell is still completely loose, do not turn another 24 hours.


For detached, Jiggly or disrupted air cells:
(see above for descriptions and images)
If air cells are Saddle shaped, Detached/Loose, or Jiggly follow above settle times
and set in the incubator and don't turn for at least 36/48 HOURS
After that time, turn on the turner or begin with the gentle turning side to side
or you can turn by hand in the carton by simply tilting side to side, see image below.​

Below image are Eggs in A Carton with Bottoms cut out for Ventilation ​

Below image of Turning damaged air cell Shipped Eggs, just lean to opposite side.





TREATMENT AT LOCKDOWN.......
Shipped eggs that have had loose air cells or saddle air cells,
should be hatched upright but tilted just enough so that the lowest dip is somewhat upright, so if they have fluid in the air cell it may prevent drowning).​

MARKING AIR CELLS DAY 18, DRAW DOWN, INTERNAL PIP, EXTERNAL PIP, and ZIPPING post #35770
Pips and ZIPS ARE NOT THE SAME PATIENCE is a MUST!


LOCKDOWN, DAY 18, CANDLES, PIPS, ZIPS
DAY 18 CANDLE IMAGES/VIDEOS: post #41176
FIVE VIDEOS show Draw Down and Internals post #44701
DAY 18 DIS CANDLES post #43401
DONT PICK THE PIPS! post #24611
TIMELINE of a silky HATCHING! NOTE HOW LONG IT TOOK FROM INTERNAL TO ZIPPING post #33770
TIMELINE OF A POLISH HATCHING QUICK HATCHOUT! post #46572
VIDEO of zip and hatch AT :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyO3YwrsJPg
DO my Air cells look ok Day 18? post #31971
DAY 18 HOW DO I LOCKDOWN, WHAT HUMIDITY, do I hatch horizontal OR Upright? post #32948
LOWERING TEMPS lockdown IS NOT NECESSARY/AIDs THE HATCHING PROCESS post #2898
Hatching Behavior & How the chick Comes out of the Shell post #34865
YES a chick can chirp when its not pipped internally! post #20506

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First and foremost, @Sally Sunshine for her excellent shipped egg information,
such that I'm getting live birds hatching from this mess:
Kristins horribly shipped eggs and hatch post #57321

CRACKED EXPENSIVE IMPORTANT EGGS
If you do receive a cracked egg and it’s an expensive egg you can try to hatch it, but beware of bacterial explosion and good possibility of ruining other eggs. It is possible to hatch a cracked egg by sealing the crack with candle wax/crayon wax or finger nail polish. Try to place the egg in a cup or protected place well away from other eggs. If viable to hatch, keep a close eye on where the pip mark will be in case the chick cant get through a fixed area.




REMINDER THAT YOU MAY BE ENTITLED TO REIMBURSEMENT
OF DAMAGED SHIPPED EGGS
SEE LINKS FOR INFO! https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/the-truth-about-insuring-hatching-eggs
http://www.jordan-farm.com/blog/

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