INCUBATING w/FRIENDS! w/Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs No problem!

[kajira]

moved the 911 baby into the isolation end of the pen, the 2 labor days are checking it out,

shes pretty

 

[Sally Sunshine]

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I am sure you could have done someone!

Quote: gotcha!!! Thanks so much!!

Quote: FANTASTIC POST!!! Thanks so much Dennis!!!!

 

[SilverHair]

shes pretty

thanks, it got big fast, had to move it early bumping the top of the brooder

 

[BantyChooks]

Hi sally, bye sally

 

[mlm Mike]

Good morning MC!

Good morning, y'all

Hope today brings you all you've wished for;
perhaps even something you need

Good Morning Whites!

Exciting week.. October 6th would have been my grandmas 93rd birthday

It will be my 29th birthday and 11th anniversary with my hubs. The 7th is my dads birthday and them my 2#sons birthday is on the 11th soooooooo busy busy week... Oh and it's fall break here so pray I don't lose my sanity

Busy month!

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Quote: I like turkey, but not ground turkey or turkey bacon.

 

[ChickenCanoe]

no the pet store sold me sick fish and I didn't even notice when I bought them.now I lost a bunch and my Oscar and others are covered in ick

Could have been in your tank already.

well it looks like I might be starting with 6 Ayam Cemani but I don't want to count my chickens before they hatch (thanks to @cjwaldon ) !!! I don't know exactly how "rare" the other ones. I really would love some cream legbars & Black Copper Marans (I have 7 of the marans with more on the way) and i would love some Pendescana. I also love my swedish flower hens.. But I am always open to suggestions!!!!

I only have Black Penedesenca but I highly recommend them. They fare best in a free range situation and don't handle close confinement. With lots of good forage, they can supplement a good deal of their feed. That just doesn't happen around here from the end of November to March.

if you see the origninal photo where each foot goes in its angled so that it will automatically tighten on the leg as they are slid in it???? Am I right or wrong? may not need anything to hold them in because weight should do it with that angle?

No you're right, that helps speed the automation process. However, I don't see CornishX fighting a lot.

@dheltzel


raise the tank temperature to 78-80°F for about 3-4 days I know you cant kill it onthe fish you have to kill lifecycle in the tank.... Dennis I tagged is true Aquarium Master hope he can explain it to you and let you know what you can try!

And you do realize CH that your oscar will eat all your other fish right? only thing that can grow with them is a pleco that I am aware of and they will need a huge tank in short order. Oscars are not the best fish for your tank.

X2 - especially that Oscars aren't a community tank friendly fish.

Hi campin love yer thinger, I posted at grannys, I am falling asleep and my inet sucks right now with this drizzle,I pray I can catch up tomorrow and start that thread. I just cant right now.

What new thread?

I wake up when called . . .

Ich is really pretty simple to treat. Raise the temp as high as your fish can stand without stressing them, stress is the #1 factor in making fish susceptible to disease. Oscars and other fish from the Amazon can tolerate 80 or even 85 without trouble as long as not overcrowded. Add an airstone or powerhead to increase oxygen when the temps are up. The high heat increases the metabolism of the parasite that causes ich and weakens it.

Then, add salt, common table salt, the cheaper the better. Don't worry about iodine, that's harmless, but the stuff they add to make it free flowing in the more expensive brands is not helpful. Start with a teaspoon per gallon. Every day, add another teaspoon per gallon. Watch for any signs of respiratory distress. If they are breathing heavy, so a large water change.

Now, for the real secret -- the white dots are cysts that will drop off and fall to the bottom (or get picked up by the filter). They incubate for a short time, then each hatches into hundreds of little parasites, all seeking a host. If you gravel vac thoroughly at least once a day, you will remove massive numbers of these cysts before they hatch. Remember to add salt to the water you use to replace it.

The salty water really stresses the parasites, already weakened by the high temps. The water changes remove lots of cysts and the also de-stress the fish so their immune systems can kick in and fight off the parasite. I believe most ich outbreaks are not caused by introducing the parasite, it was already there, but a new fish changes the social dynamic and adds stress so at least one fish becomes susceptible and that starts the massive buildup of the parasites that soon overwhelms the defenses of all the fish, making it seem like the new fish brought it. It might have been "patient #1", but might have been infected by parasites already in the tank (or in the pet shop tank, those places are "rife with strife").

I avoid buying pet shop fish as much as possible, and expect any I do get to become sick. So a quarantine tank is a must, preferably setup like I described from combating ich, as this also treats a lot of other problems as well. Once the new fish is recovered and free of problems for a month of so, only then can it go into the tank with others.

I have kept and bred thousands of tropical fish, dozens of varieties, and I have become highly opinionated about the industry and the way fish should be kept. I regularly violated all the "rules" and had fish breed like crazy when overfeeding and under filtering, because I made sure the tanks were a natural as possible, while meeting the needs of the fish I was keeping. Keeping a tank of fish healthy and multiplying is easy if you use the right fish and the right plants and take basic care to keep the environment healthy. Frankly, it got boring, that's why I moved on to poultry . . .

I hope the excellent information is taken to heart and actually read.

I've heard of people with them on the soles of their feet! Now that sucks!

Time to learn to walk on one's hands.

No lol! We use dogs to bay and then the other dogs hold them by their ears. When you hear the ungodly squealing YOU RUN YOUR ASK OFF!! You wanna get to that hog ASAP so those dogs don't get hurt. We run through briars thick as heck ,up hill or down hill ,through swamps ....you name it! One person grabs hold of the hind legs and flips the hog on their back. One person hold their foot down on the neck. And the third person sticks the hog in the lung/heart area so that it'll bleed out quickly. As someone else is pulling off the dogs. If the hog doesn't die quickly we will shoot it to end needless suffering. No reason for that mess. Glad you like!!

Sounds exciting.

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ChickenCanoe:
Hecks to the yes!!! That's great. I'm assuming you saved it fairly quickly? You only have so much time before it would start to spoil especially in the hot weather we've had. Way to exercise your frugality!!!! Lol

One was hit during the night and died 20' from the house. It was February and I discovered it as I was getting ready for work so I couldn't work on it till evening. All I lost was part of the bruised hindquarter and the liver didn't look good.
Another had 3 broken legs and a cop killed it at 2AM. I wish he hadn't shot it in the heart. That's my favorite part. I loaded it on the garden cart brought it to the house and hung it up in the morning.
The last one jumped a 7' iron fence at the bottom of the hill and caught its rear leg in the top. A cop shot that one too. I had to hack it's lower leg off with a machete to get it down. Loaded it on my son's trunk and drove it up the hill.
Basically all fresh kills.
That experience has one on the lookout for road kill

We are not so scientific... most of our beef cattle are originally bred out of brown swiss... so they are big and they have no trouble calving. We also have some Murray Grey.. not sure if you have them in the states?? if that is where you are! bit like and angus, only soft grey

I've not seen Murray Greys. I imagine it's an Aussie thing.

Ohhhh beautiful there!! Use to live in Bryson City. Gorgeous!
Yes they are! That's why there is no season on them. You may take however many whenever. Because they're such a nuisance. They can rut up and destroy an area of land in no time and I do mean no time!!!!

They're hard to the landscape especially in hill country where they contribute to erosion, not to mention competing for food with natives.
Some areas of the Ozark Mountains has a problem with them.

 

[mlm Mike]

Quote: Hello!

moved the 911 baby into the isolation end of the pen, the 2 labor days are checking it out,

Very nice.

Hi Sally!

 

[chicken hawk 33]

Could have been in your tank already.

I only have Black Penedesenca but I highly recommend them. They fare best in a free range situation and don't handle close confinement. With lots of good forage, they can supplement a good deal of their feed. That just doesn't happen around here from the end of November to March.

No you're right, that helps speed the automation process. However, I don't see CornishX fighting a lot.

X2 - especially that Oscars aren't a community tank friendly fish.

What new thread?

I hope the excellent information is taken to heart and actually read.

Time to learn to walk on one's hands.

Sounds exciting.

One was hit during the night and died 20' from the house. It was February and I discovered it as I was getting ready for work so I couldn't work on it till evening. All I lost was part of the bruised hindquarter and the liver didn't look good.
Another had 3 broken legs and a cop killed it at 2AM. I wish he hadn't shot it in the heart. That's my favorite part. I loaded it on the garden cart brought it to the house and hung it up in the morning.
The last one jumped a 7' iron fence at the bottom of the hill and caught its rear leg in the top. A cop shot that one too. I had to hack it's lower leg off with a machete to get it down. Loaded it on my son's trunk and drove it up the hill.
Basically all fresh kills.
That experience has one on the lookout for road kill

I've not seen Murray Greys. I imagine it's an Aussie thing.

They're hard to the landscape especially in hill country where they contribute to erosion, not to mention competing for food with natives.
Some  areas of the Ozark Mountains has a problem with them.

trust me it wasn't I keep my tank really clean and fish healthy it cam from the PetSmart fish.there horrible with keeping there fish

 

[Sally Sunshine]

No lol! We use dogs to bay and then the other dogs hold them by their ears. When you hear the ungodly squealing YOU RUN YOUR ASK OFF!! You wanna get to that hog ASAP so those dogs don't get hurt. We run through briars thick as heck ,up hill or down hill ,through swamps ....you name it! One person grabs hold of the hind legs and flips the hog on their back. One person hold their foot down on the neck. And the third person sticks the hog in the lung/heart area so that it'll bleed out quickly. As someone else is pulling off the dogs. If the hog doesn't die quickly we will shoot it to end needless suffering. No reason for that mess. Glad you like!!

WOW thats too nutty for this old gal, cant you just shoot them from a stand? yeezus I would be scared for my dogs and everyone else

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both of you gals! I love this thread and those it brings together!!

Hey thanks a lot.

Did you order a bator? what did you get ? @dutch25

@@Sally Sunshine @@NaJoBeLe
Someone posted something very similar on here last week, and several of us were discussing the possibility of duplicating it; this is what Chaos came up with.
And he did a good job too!

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I think everyone had a bit of say, but its awesome that Nathan and Choas took the time to actually try to make them! I am thrilled to see it working!

Good morning, y'all

Hope today brings you all you've wished for;
perhaps even something you need

morning whites hugs love and all the above backatcha

Does anyone have candling images of dark brown eggs?

why whuts going on? they would be mixed in all the other candle images in the notes

 

[Akrnaf2]

Hey Benny... Do you guys have anything similar to bacon you can eat?

Yes turkey "bacon"