Incubation progress of Muscovy eggs

[subhanalah]

I don't understand how that solves my problem though?

maltose tins and deformities can be caused by improper turning of eggs, which is precisely what was going on.
They had bigger problems than just some high temperatures and their jelly membrane.

 

[Lacrystol]

That is exactly what I did, yes.

Ok GOOOD deal because you just figured out the problem and now your next batch you can correct it to have a better success rate.... , you see when you flipped them like that besides causing them to be deformed, you also caused them to get sticky, IT didn't matter if you had 5 percent or 50 percent moisture they have to absorb so much moisture as they are growing and when they got flip, they couldn't do it. It basically and this is may not be the proper term but it basically got them confused, I guess is probably not the right word to use but I think you get the idea... So that's when the stickiness comes in, they probably would have never gotten sticky if they were set right because they would have lost the required amount of moisture that they needed...but flipping them caused them not to be able to do soo....


SO CONGRATULATIONS ON SOLVING THE ISSUE, NOW GO GET MORE EGGS AND LETS TRY AGAIN. WOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOO...

 

[Lacrystol]

That makes sense to me. From day 35ish, temps were all over the place. There was one time during incubation thatthe plug got knocked out but that was only for 15 mins max apparently. I did open and close the bator a bit during incubation when candling?

Temps spiking from day 35ish, isn't going to cause them to get sticky if you temp was to low from the beginning up to there due date, then possibility but I strongly believe it was because they couldn't get or absorbed the required amount due to the flipping...so the moisture just built up until you raise the temp some causing the thick gooy...

 

[subhanalah]

Temps spiking from day 35ish, isn't going to cause them to get sticky if you temp was to low from the beginning up to there due date, then possibility but I strongly believe it was because they couldn't get or absorbed the required amount due to the flipping...so the moisture just built up until you raise the temp some causing the thick gooy...

this is based on studies online. The thick clear jelly-like membrane is caused by temperatures being too high later in incubation. The "remains" of the eggs are thick and copious. In ideal conditions, there is a very thin light pink remnant in the shell.

And her temperature had to have been too low during the beginning of incubation, otherwise they would not have been sooooo late hatching.

 

[MuscovyLover]

@subhanalah and @Lacrystol wow! Just WOW!!
Somebody on here told me at some point that I should do that. I'm assuming i interpreted what they were saying incorrectly.
I CANNOT tell you what a relief it is to know just what I did wrong. Phew! I feel SO much better knowing that.
I'm very sad that I cost those babies there precious lives to learn it but I absolutely won't make the same mistake again.
My auto turner is one where you put the pointy end down and they sit vertically in it.
So correct me if I'm wrong but I just want to be clear.
I should have been turning them a quarter of the way AROUND once a day, not gently flipping them UPSIDE DOWN once a day?

 

[subhanalah]

@subhanalah and @Lacrystol wow! Just WOW!!
Somebody on here told me at some point that I should do that. I'm assuming i interpreted what they were saying incorrectly.
I CANNOT tell you what a relief it is to know just what I did wrong. Phew! I feel SO much better knowing that.
I'm very sad that I cost those babies there precious lives to learn it but I absolutely won't make the same mistake again.
My auto turner is one where you put the pointy end down and they sit vertically in it.
So correct me if I'm wrong but I just want to be clear.
I should have been turning them a quarter of the way AROUND once a day, not gently flipping them UPSIDE DOWN once a day?

Yes, that is right. You want to rotate around the long axis, keeping the fat end up and the pointy end down.
This is because gravity has an affect on the developing embryo, and when in the nest, the air cell naturally keeps the eggs slightly pointed in that direction, like one of those silly kid's toys that you hit and keeps popping back up due to the air inside it?

 

[MuscovyLover]

Yes, that is right. You want to rotate around the long axis, keeping the fat end up and the pointy end down.
This is because gravity has an affect on the developing embryo, and when in the nest, the air cell naturally keeps the eggs slightly pointed in that direction, like one of those silly kid's toys that you hit and keeps popping back up due to the air inside it?

That is such a relief to know. I can't believe just ONE mistake could have such drastic effects!
Thankyou ladies sooo much!!
If it wasn't for talking this through with you two, I would have left both eggs to attempt hatching themselves, not learnt anything from all of this, then sat in the corner rocking, too scared to ever try again

 

[MuscovyLover]

this is based on studies online. The thick clear jelly-like membrane is caused by temperatures being too high later in incubation. The "remains" of the eggs are thick and copious. In ideal conditions, there is a very thin light pink remnant in the shell.

And her temperature had to have been too low during the beginning of incubation, otherwise they would not have been sooooo late hatching.

And just to clarify, if the temp is actually correct, is 37.5 correct for incubation?

 

[subhanalah]

And just to clarify, if the temp is actually correct, is 37.5 correct for incubation?

yes, but you need an accurate thermometer. A difference of .5 degrees can mean a whole day's worth of difference.

 

[MuscovyLover]

yes, but you need an accurate thermometer. A difference of .5 degrees can mean a whole day's worth of difference.

Awesome. I will set the bator back up tomorrow and check it with a few thermometers over the weekend