Incubators Anonymous

[ozexpat]

except for one thing... http://www.drugs.com/vet/mycoplasma-gallisepticum-vaccine.html
under "Precautions" states clearly Do not use in breeders.

it's a modified live virus which will give the birds a modified version of the disease. the immunity they build against this version also works against the more virulent types, but they are still carriers of the modified version now, which can transmit to their eggs/chicks. whether it causes other problems with fertility or development I don't know.

or... *tinfoil hat time* maybe that immunity is passed to the offspring, just as MG does, so the pharmaceutical companies say don't use on breeders, because then they won't ever sell more. LOL

the actual label does not say that - well at least on the one I found

ZOETIS INC.
333 PORTAGE STREET, KALAMAZOO, MI, 49007
Telephone: 269-833-4000
Customer Service: 800-733-5500 and 800-793-0596
Veterinary Medical Investigations & Product Support: 800-366-5288
Technical Services (USA): 800-366-5288
Website: www.zoetis.com

Every effort has been made to ensure the accuracy of the information published. However, it remains the responsibility of the readers to familiarize themselves with the product information contained on the USA product label or package insert.
MG-BAC

Mycoplasma Gallisepticum Bacterin Vaccine
Zoetis
ZOETIS
For Veterinary Use Only
For the subcutaneous or intramuscular vaccination of chickens and turkeys as an aid in the prevention of clinical signs associated with Mycoplasma gallisepticum infection.
DOSE: Inject 0.5 mL (0.5 cc) subcutaneously (in the lower neck region) for birds 1 to 10 weeks of age using aseptic technique. For birds 10 weeks of age or older, may vaccinate intramuscularly or subcutaneously. Vaccinate only healthy birds prior to field exposure. The vaccination program should be completed prior to the point of lay. For optimum results, vaccinate twice, allowing at least 4 weeks between vaccinations. Revaccinate birds during molt before the second laying period.
CAUTION: Store in the dark at 36° to 45°F (2° to 7°C). Do not freeze. Warm to 72°F (22°C) and shake well before using. Do not vaccinate within 42 days before slaughter. Do not vaccinate broilers or meat turkeys by the intramuscular route of administration. If birds are vaccinated during lay, a drop in egg production may occur. Use entire contents when first opened.
Penicillin added as a preservative.
WARNING: In case of accidental human injection seek immediate medical attention, stating the vaccine is an oil emulsion type.
Zoetis Inc., Kalamazoo, MI 49007
U.S. Vet. License No. 190
List No.






2173

500 mL

1,000 Doses

11641800
NAC No.: 36902952



As far as preventing transmission through eggs - some studies show that a "double vaccinated" leghorn hens transmission of MG to her eggs reduces by 67% and other articles talk of total breaking of the cycle.

Here is the link to one http://www.oie.int/doc/ged/D9108.PDF

 

[dutchbunny83]

Ooh that's pretty scary I really thought I was in the clear.

Is this something that would show up immediately or could I have infected birds in my flock from mail order eggs I hatched and not realize it?

Side note-- I think I officially have an incubation problem. Got home today and was sent 6 eggs from a friend and have 1 spot open in my egg turner and its next to the motor. Guess I have to do some candling and see how to work these 6 in. I think my husband would freak if I bought a new incubator. Though if I keep losing chickens to predators like I have this week I'm going to need to keep hatching!!!

 

[Arielle]

In a brief discussion with the state vet when I asked to get tested for MG, she said" you wouldn't want to know." Frustrated she explained, it is so prevalent in the backyard chicken flocks. I haven't bought many eggs since.

I should ask the old folks about the immunity in the old flocks.

 

[ki4got]

Ooh that's pretty scary I really thought I was in the clear.

Is this something that would show up immediately or could I have infected birds in my flock from mail order eggs I hatched and not realize it?

Side note-- I think I officially have an incubation problem. Got home today and was sent 6 eggs from a friend and have 1 spot open in my egg turner and its next to the motor. Guess I have to do some candling and see how to work these 6 in. I think my husband would freak if I bought a new incubator. Though if I keep losing chickens to predators like I have this week I'm going to need to keep hatching!!!

while these eggs start incubating, you can forego turning for a couple days. I've always used that spot next to the motor without issue too btw.

I've also laid eggs horizontally on top of the other eggs in there, and it just rolls back and forth like the turning eggs do. then I manually turn them half a turn once a day, until spots open up in the turner.

as for hatching, I use a separate hovabator for all my hatching, so I don't need to worry about rotating hatches.

 

[dutchbunny83]

Thanks for the tip!
I'm gonna have this bad boy loaded down!!!
Haha hope they all hatch!!!

 

[Tammy N]

Quote: i kept thinking that is not right but didn't look it up....thanks.
I am always making the mistake Of gm instead of Mg thanks Mrdippy , i was under the impression i could save eggs tat way its hard lesson i learned . May i pick your brain a little in Messages ? SORRY AGAIN i must be going dislexic DMRippy I apologise

 

[Tammy N]

Quote:

except for one thing... http://www.drugs.com/vet/mycoplasma-gallisepticum-vaccine.html
under "Precautions" states clearly Do not use in breeders.

it's a modified live virus which will give the birds a modified version of the disease. the immunity they build against this version also works against the more virulent types, but they are still carriers of the modified version now, which can transmit to their eggs/chicks. whether it causes other problems with fertility or development I don't know.

or... *tinfoil hat time* maybe that immunity is passed to the offspring, just as MG does, so the pharmaceutical companies say don't use on breeders, because then they won't ever sell more. LOL

No i think i read where this is a way to help keep the disease low but not really a cure , Mg is bad the guy who sold me the birds told me he treats his birds after i told him once a week with AB and Tylan . then he said he would wait 2 weeks no drugs and ab food and see if he has it . UM DUDE you need to wait a month or more but he wont and he sells birds at the auction 2 days after heavily dosing them and then he goes to the shows this guy Has top brahmas . his MG killed off my baby boy 9 month old rooster named Patron and to be honest i liked my patron better then his boys and he offered me money for him sometimes i wished i would of taken it so he may be alive i also had turkeys in the oposite side yard 70 feet and fence wood and pen dividing them 7 months old i cant even eat and to do them in i have to burn the carcas so im kinda screwed here on that i cant have a fire in my area

 

[Tammy N]

Quote: I made the mistake IM sorry .
Does the state test for MG ? If so i wanna test for it i dont care as long as i can know my eggs and animals are clean . a Neighbor of the guy that sold me my chicks ate his eggs and meat and has gallisepticum . IM wondering can it transfer ?

 

[Tammy N]

In a brief discussion with the state vet when I asked to get tested for MG, she said" you wouldn't want to know." Frustrated she explained, it is so prevalent in the backyard chicken flocks. I haven't bought many eggs since.

I should ask the old folks about the immunity in the old flocks.

But what if your buyers want to know ? My goal is making awarness of this Disease to everyone the innocent people shouldnt buy chicks or eggs that carry a disease I paid over 300 for my chicks from a reputable breeder and eggs to boot. So i do feel like i got a bad deal the man sold me healthy Chicks the other man sold me sick chicks I paid less for the animals from the hobby breeder ,
Patron was a Gift a love bug and now he is gone and I am one after i had this disaster and clean up of over 1000.00 removing the hen house burning my lot and redoing the dirt since MG does and will live in your Soil it ended up being expensive and the Reputable show breeder he wont change a thing he is still selling and hatching and says he would rather not know and just treat his animals with More antibiotics i asked him what happens when the antibiotics stop working , hes been in 6 states living in 8 yrs and raises birds threw it all so Ohio,california,oregon,washington,idaho and DC and he has never bought a bird out side of what he had because he is scared of Typhoid LMAO NO joke

 

[ozexpat]

I made the mistake IM sorry .
Does the state test for MG ? If so i wanna test for it i dont care as long as i can know my eggs and animals are clean . a Neighbor of the guy that sold me my chicks ate his eggs and meat and has gallisepticum . IM wondering can it transfer ?

It cannot transfer to humans.

http://umaine.edu/livestock/poultry/mycoplasma-gallisepticum-faq/

Is MG a problem in people? No, this disease has not been shown to cause disease in people. However, other respiratory diseases of poultry — like avian influenza — are definitely a problem for people, so contact with birds that show signs of a “cold” or sinusitis (coughing, sneezing, runny eyes, swollen faces) should be limited. If you have sudden deaths in a flock for any reason, seek help from a poultry vet (or the state vet) and MINIMIZE CONTACT. Because of dust, bacteria, fungi, molds, and viruses such as influenza, it’s good to wear a mask while working with the birds. Also, wash hands well after being around the birds and use biosecurity measures (outerwear for barn use only, footbaths, etc).