I Thank you for your thoughts. I'm trying to tell myself that she's lived a good long life (as a matter of fact, we were told she wouldn't live to be more than 2 or 3 years old and she's 11 now), but it still hurts. She's always had problems, but at this point she's deteriorating and it doesn't look like there's anything that can be done. She was a birthday gift when I was young and now I'm losing her for my birthday this year. Sorry, y'all probably didn't need to read all of this, but it does feel better to tell someone.[/quote It's ok by me. I can listen, read or talk about dogs or chickens all day long. If it makes you feel better, I'm all ears- or eyes I lost two dogs in the last year and I'm firmly convinced that my boy was the most awesome dog ever born and my girl was the sweetest. It was Awful. I wish I knew what to say to be helpful I'm just really sorry.