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[COLOR=0000CD]M2H= thank you for the praises sometimes I do need a boost, cause I feel like I am not cut out for this cause I don't know as much as I feel I need to know. So thanks for that, the vet said that the old girls just were too old to deal with the cold we are having this winter, In. birds just aint used to it any more,  but he said I do need to provide more fresh veg and fruit, so I am checking to see which are best and more cost effective due to having 30 birds. Now DH has went and hurt himself on the job and cant work for a while so I have to tighten things down allot. Worst winter ever!! Am more then ready to have it over. [/COLOR]
[COLOR=0000CD]​ I am trying to catch up on the thread and I'm only on pg 2067, now I got to stop and wake DH, help get him a bath dressed and to the doc. again today, so I will be even more behind..[/COLOR]:barnie  I don't like missing out I learn too much, and you guys make me feel normal... lol[COLOR=0000CD] [/COLOR]


Maybe call around to some local grocery stores and ask if you can take their older produce that isn't fit to sell any more.  Tell them it is for your chickens.  I bet they throw out a lot of produce that would still be fit for the birds.  Just a thought and it would be free!


I do the grocery store thing..I call local shop n save. They occasionally have kale. They still charge me but only .10c a bunch!!!! Th girls love kale!!!
 
I found the right person at Perdue to talk to this morning and left her a message. Unfortunately when I went to check on Lucy, it was too late. I'm hoping they can test her if it was just last night that she passed.
I'm so sorry.
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Cr, I am so sorry you are going through this. This is a hard one. Here are several links with lots of info, from people who do have md in their flock.

IMHO I would take Lucy to Purdue. They can guess all they want, but you need answers, not guesses. Once you get the answers as to what is wrong with Lucy then you can make an informed decision. It may be lots of things as there are many thing that mimick md. There seems to be no one thing with mericks, different areas have different strains. Then people knowingly/un-knowingly sell/trade/give away their birds and if you didn't know you had md you've now combined flocks and strains. So it is very confusing. Wild birds carry it, heck even carries on the wind in the chicken dander. Not really much you can do. But at the same time there is a lot to do.

I am sending prayers and good thoughts your way.

Deb

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/741957/not-an-emergency-mareks-in-the-flock

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...in-neck-possible-tumor-thymus-response-mareks

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/752961/help-mareks-disease

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...ns-the-highs-the-lows-and-pics-of-our-journey
Yes I agree worst winter ever, so dang cold. This is my first winter with chickens outside too. We got them last January and they were in the house for ever it seemed. Now they are outside in the coup and it's crazy cold! Lots to learn for us new chicken owners. You might want to grow some fodder for you birds. I'm starting that when I get home (at my moms in Michigan ATM) so they can get some more greens. Dh got laid off Friday so me buying the extra veggies at the store for the chickens is done for now. Great idea on the store front with the old veggies (on my iPad, it didn't pull up the quote I think it was m2h suggestion). I will be doing that myself. And If I get something they shouldn't have off to the compost it goes. So win win IMHO. Thanks for the idea!

On to you dh. I am so sorry to hear he had an on the job injury. My dh did as well about 3 years ago. He was off work for a year and 10 months. He actually amputated His thumb. The company he was working for (nuclear plant in Michigan) took really good care of him once they found a hospital who would treat him. Being injured at a nuke plant scares a lot of people lol. They re attached his thumb, he lost the first joint so it doesn't bend anymore But he still has it and can still use it to some degree. Lots of therapy.

If there is anything I can help with, please just pm me. And I'm praying for a speedy recovery for your dh.
Sorry about your DH's job. Here's hoping he finds something wonderful soon.

And speaking of work, M2H, I noticed you said you did freelance work. Writing? I was a freelance journalist for years before I started publishing fiction. Please tell me you write about chickens!
 
I found the right person at Perdue to talk to this morning and left her a message. Unfortunately when I went to check on Lucy, it was too late. I'm hoping they can test her if it was just last night that she passed.


:( I'm so sorry! They will probably want her body refrigerated but not frozen until you can get it to them. I don't know much about testing for Mericks specifically but that's kind of standard handeling.

Edited: I should read before posting! Someone else suggested this.

Here's a very scientific description of marek's disease.
https://www.addl.purdue.edu/newsletters/2005/spring/mareks.htm

Purdue's ADDL sample submission guidelines
https://www.addl.purdue.edu/SampleSubmission/QuickRef.aspx
 
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I do the grocery store thing..I call local shop n save. They occasionally have kale. They still charge me but only .10c a bunch!!!! Th girls love kale!!![/quote

I had kale and spinach winter varieties planted in my garden for them, but they finished it way to early. I would love .10 a bunch, I'm paying 1.00 now. I try to give them greens 3-4 a week as a treat, on top of the normal stuff they get.
 
Cr, I am so sorry you are going through this. This is a hard one. Here are several links with lots of info, from people who do have md in their flock.

IMHO I would take Lucy to Purdue. They can guess all they want, but you need answers, not guesses. Once you get the answers as to what is wrong with Lucy then you can make an informed decision. It may be lots of things as there are many thing that mimick md. There seems to be no one thing with mericks, different areas have different strains. Then people knowingly/un-knowingly sell/trade/give away their birds and if you didn't know you had md you've now combined flocks and strains. So it is very confusing. Wild birds carry it, heck even carries on the wind in the chicken dander. Not really much you can do. But at the same time there is a lot to do.

I am sending prayers and good thoughts your way.

Deb

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/741957/not-an-emergency-mareks-in-the-flock

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...in-neck-possible-tumor-thymus-response-mareks

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/752961/help-mareks-disease

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...ns-the-highs-the-lows-and-pics-of-our-journey
Yes I agree worst winter ever, so dang cold. This is my first winter with chickens outside too. We got them last January and they were in the house for ever it seemed. Now they are outside in the coup and it's crazy cold! Lots to learn for us new chicken owners. You might want to grow some fodder for you birds. I'm starting that when I get home (at my moms in Michigan ATM) so they can get some more greens. Dh got laid off Friday so me buying the extra veggies at the store for the chickens is done for now. Great idea on the store front with the old veggies (on my iPad, it didn't pull up the quote I think it was m2h suggestion. It was chick rookie who suggested, but still thanks to m2h for all you do). I will be doing that myself. And If I get something they shouldn't have off to the compost it goes. So win win IMHO. Thanks for the idea!

On to you dh. I am so sorry to hear he had an on the job injury. My dh did as well about 3 years ago. He was off work for a year and 10 months. He actually amputated His thumb. The company he was working for (nuclear plant in Michigan) took really good care of him once they found a hospital who would treat him. Being injured at a nuke plant scares a lot of people lol. They re attached his thumb, he lost the first joint so it doesn't bend anymore But he still has it and can still use it to some degree. Lots of therapy.

If there is anything I can help with, please just pm me. And I'm praying for a speedy recovery for your dh.
Deb- Thank you. That's pretty much how I feel too. It didn't make sense to me that the Avian vet in Indy said to cull the flock. If they aren't showing signs, then they aren't suffering right? I'm out there every day so I think I would notice. My only issue is that I really wanted to order chicks for the spring and now I'm not sure that's a good idea. I'm only about 1.5 hours from Perdue, so I could drive her up there and be back before the kids are out of school, if only they would return my call.
I am so sorry to hear she passed. Place her in a bag sealed. Grocery bag maybe and tie it up, place her in the fridge not the freezer. Purdue will still take her and test her. It needs to be done so you know how to proceed with you flock. They (the flock) may need meds, who knows at this point.

I'm looking for a link on how to package her up and send her via mail to Purdue, brb
I agree, thank you! I actually found your posts last night when I was searching the thread.

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I'm so sorry! They will probably want her body refrigerated but not frozen until you can get it to them. I don't know much about testing for Mericks specifically but that's kind of standard handeling.

Edited: I should read before posting! Someone else suggested this.

Here's a very scientific description of marek's disease.
https://www.addl.purdue.edu/newsletters/2005/spring/mareks.htm

Purdue's ADDL sample submission guidelines
https://www.addl.purdue.edu/SampleSubmission/QuickRef.aspx




Thanks again everyone. I really appreciate the information and support from all of you. This is nerve wracking when you don't have enough experience to be competent at something. I wonder if Dr. Jozsef Marek was pleased to have a disease named after him.
 
I found the right person at Perdue to talk to this morning and left her a message. Unfortunately when I went to check on Lucy, it was too late. I'm hoping they can test her if it was just last night that she passed.
Cheryl, I am so sorry!
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I know you loved that sweet girl. She's lucky that you were taking such good care of her inside your home. Hopefully, you can find some answers.
 
Weird... Works for me... Oh well, here's a picture!

Does anyone have any experience with these or know if by some magical possibility they are coon proof?
lilmizcareall ~ The link took me to Lowe's home page, too. I bet bradselig had something to do with that! lol
I haven't seen that type of lock before. It looks like it has a spring gate similar to carabinger lock.

chick rookie ~ Here's a Carabinger Lock:


I'm starting to re-think using spring locks because raccoons can figure out most locks and I read that they can remember how to use them for up to three years! (They probably carry a tiny manual around--lol). I suppose that a lock with key or a combination lock would be the most fool proof.
 

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