Mine with squeeze over the bottom wire, over the fence, under the top wire. I need to run more middle wires, but I am sure not doing it in their weather! They are little escape artists. They aren't trying to get out now, because it is snow and more snow. No grass on the other side. lolI guess everyone has a different experience. I have know several other people with pygmies that were very difficult to keep in. I even kept dome in chain link and they broke the fences down climbing on them. My Boer goats do just fine with a couple strands of shock wire. Now that I have said that I will probably have issues this year.LOL