INDIANA BYC'ers HERE!

If you can, free range until you figure out what works for turkeys as far as feed goes. Pretty sure wheat being optimal does not mean oats aren't options. Turkeys live on acorns and bugs in the wild; I'm pretty sure they'll eat oats just fine. Truthfully, they can live on and enjoy about anything.

I've never had a problem brooding turkeys with chicks and even ducklings. If anything, the extra early socialization seems to help them all get along in a mixed flock.

Other consideration is breed, which depends on space and purpose. I love turkeys as pets but am open to the idea of eating them. I have four BB turkey poults at the moment (two bronze, two white). We'll just eat anyone who doesn't get along or have much personality. If you're after pets, go heritage (and, in the event you want to eat one, they taste better according to all the taste tests). Heritage has far less size and breast meat and takes longer to get to 'eating size'. Broad breasted breeds, however, have a plethora of health woes, short lifespans, can't breed naturally, etc.

Good grief, I totally forgot about blackhead. I actually had that on a list of things to do, sitting here on my desk and I got so excited about Turkeys I forgot. Just found the list behind my desk, when I redid it I didn't add blackhead back into the mix.

I know they are more fragile, one reason I did not want to get them before Sunday b/c we will be gone most of the day Saturday and I want to be around to keep an eye on them. My feed is 21%. I need to e-mail the Fertrell nutritionist anyway and will ask the best way to increase that protein. I wonder if during Turkey snuggle time I can just give them a little extra in the form of scrambled eggs? I do know that on the Fertrell website they have recommendations to adapt, but it is a different recipe than where I get my feed and in 2,000 lb. batches, a little more than I need!
The first thing to look into, call the county and ask if blackhead disease is a problem where you live. If so, keep them away from chickens. Likely not a problem, we have several Indy members. Blackhead will kill turkeys, chickens can carry it unaffected.
Temps, not higher but consistent temps and draft free for sure. Poults are fragile the first week. They also will drown themselves! I use rocks in the waterer to prevent it.The important point in feed is higher protein. I use 24% game bird type starter for my poults, guinea and ducklings. Having a chick tutor in with them really helps them learn eating and drinking, most catch on pretty quick tho. I brood chicks, poults and keets together, no issues unless its BB poults. Then they are just too big.
 
I'm not sure who on here lives in Mooresville, but thanks for the recommendation. I had a nice lady come today from Indy (2 and a half hours away from me) to pick up silkie eggs. She said she was told from a craigslist contact in Mooresville that I had some nice silkies. She didn't get a name, so thanks mystery person. :)

That was me. Always try to refer to a fellow BYCer when I get a request for something I don't raise.
 
Thank you to Kittydoc & Chickcrazed for helping make my daughter's 4H project possible. Terrific hatch. 8 out of 10 Bielefelder eggs hatched; 6 are female. 14 out of 15 blk/Lav Orpington eggs hatched. Broody is doing well.

I would give anything to go back to last week when a lot of my energy went toward planning for chicks. Life was normal & happy then. At 3:30am Fri morning, my mom stopped breathing for a few minutes. My poor father was there to witness everything. The paramedics revived her, but only lower brain functions like reflexes came back. Our family waited for days to see any signs of hope, but each day the brain activity changed & slowed. My dad, 3 children, 12 grandchildren, & 6 great-grandchildren miss this amazing woman. Many people stopped by to say Good Bye on Sun-Mon. My mom always regretted not being there when her mom passed, so I knew it was important for my mom not to be alone until God called her home. On Monday at 5pm, the crowd thinned. By 6pm my dad had to leave (too difficult to hear her breathing). The next shift was running late, so my husband had to run home to tuck our kids into bed. He called a friend to keep me company while he was away. It was during that time between husband leaving & my friend arriving, that my mom passed while I held her hand.

My mom & I spoke on the phone often. So many words we shared & when the the docs recommended everyone say what needed to be said (final words), I had none. Throughout the days I keep seeing things that I want tell mom about or all those little things that remind me of her. These days have been so long, so I want to call home to speak with her for comfort. Next week is her 80th birthday with Mother's Day soon after. It's unbearable to think that I will only have her memories & not her hugs. She was strong & in general good health. Just one moment changed everything forever.

My sister also went into ICU last week. She had a close call & had to fight with her docs so she could be released from the hospital to say good bye to Mom. She lives with my parents &, unlike my mom, is in poor health. My poor father is emotionally crushed & battling the same bronchitis. They were married young & just celebrated their 62nd anniversary in Jan. Mom was his world.

Please continue to pray for my family. DH & I have been blessed with friends/neighbors who have provided meals & childcare, so I could stay at the hospital. I will not be posting for a while, but I wanted to share my feelings, b/c I no longer have my mom with whom to share.
 
Well, we did get the hive set up with some honey left in a frame and some lemon grass oil to see if we can attract a swarm. (Not a top bar - the one that belongs to the other guy.)

On the top bar, it's really very interesting and worth learning about. I just purchased a video from this place: http://www.backyardhive.com/
It should get here either tomorrow or Thursday. I'm looking forward to watching the whole thing. The video preview (posted below) looks like it's very well done so I decided to buy the whole presentation. I think it's going to be helpful. I've watched videos posted by this guy in their on-site classes and they're very informative.

Here's the intro video:
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[ http://www.backyardhive.com/general...he_top_bar_hive_and_the_bee_guardian_methods/ ]



We visited some folks a couple years ago and looked at their hives and talked "top bar beekeeping" with them. The "stuff of life" just got in the way and we never pursued it. I want to look at the video (I've also read about using the top bars some) and then decide if we want to go ahead and get or make one. I love the more natural approach and there seems to be many potential positives to the top bars including not having to purchase a lot of expensive equipment.

It would be great if we could attract a local swarm, but does anyone know any INDIANA (northern) sources to get a package?
Thanks for sharing the video! Please let me know how the full presentation goes. :)

We got bees from Star City, Indiana, a place called Apple Blossom Honey Farm. You can pre-order packaged bees and queens and pick them up. They also have beekeeping supplies. My DH also ordered bees online and had them USPS delivered.
 
Thank you to Kittydoc & Chickcrazed for helping make my daughter's 4H project possible.  Terrific hatch. 8 out of 10 Bielefelder eggs hatched; 6 are female.  14 out of 15 blk/Lav Orpington eggs hatched.  Broody is doing well.

I would give anything to go back to last week when a lot of my energy went toward planning for chicks.  Life was normal & happy then.  At 3:30am Fri morning, my mom stopped breathing for a few minutes.  My poor father was there to witness everything.  The paramedics revived her, but only lower brain functions like reflexes came back.  Our family waited for days to see any signs of hope, but each day the brain activity changed & slowed.  My dad, 3 children, 12 grandchildren, & 6 great-grandchildren miss this amazing woman.  Many people stopped by to say Good Bye on Sun-Mon.  My mom always regretted not being there when her mom passed, so I knew it was important for my mom not to be alone until God called her home.  On Monday  at 5pm, the crowd thinned.  By 6pm my dad had to leave (too difficult to hear her breathing).  The next shift was running late, so my husband had to run home to tuck our kids into bed.  He called a friend to keep me company while he was away.  It was during that time between husband leaving & my friend arriving, that my mom passed while I held her hand.  

My mom & I spoke on the phone often.  So many words we shared & when the the docs recommended everyone say what needed to be said (final words), I had none.  Throughout the days I keep seeing things that I want tell mom about or all those little things that remind me of her.  These days have been so long, so I want to call home to speak with her for comfort.  Next week is her 80th birthday with Mother's Day soon after.  It's unbearable to think that I will only have her memories & not her hugs.  She was strong & in general good health.  Just one moment changed everything forever.

My sister also went into ICU last week.  She had a close call & had to fight with her docs so she could be released from the hospital to say good bye to Mom.  She lives with my parents &, unlike my mom, is in poor health.  My poor father is emotionally crushed & battling the same bronchitis.  They were married young & just celebrated their 62nd anniversary in Jan.  Mom was his world.

Please continue to pray for my family.  DH & I have been blessed with friends/neighbors who have provided meals & childcare, so I could stay at the hospital. I will not be posting for a while, but I wanted to share my feelings, b/c I no longer have my mom with whom to share.


I'm so sorry for your loss! Your mom sounds like an amazing woman! You and your family will be in my prayers!
 
Thank you to Kittydoc & Chickcrazed for helping make my daughter's 4H project possible. Terrific hatch. 8 out of 10 Bielefelder eggs hatched; 6 are female. 14 out of 15 blk/Lav Orpington eggs hatched. Broody is doing well.

I would give anything to go back to last week when a lot of my energy went toward planning for chicks. Life was normal & happy then. At 3:30am Fri morning, my mom stopped breathing for a few minutes. My poor father was there to witness everything. The paramedics revived her, but only lower brain functions like reflexes came back. Our family waited for days to see any signs of hope, but each day the brain activity changed & slowed. My dad, 3 children, 12 grandchildren, & 6 great-grandchildren miss this amazing woman. Many people stopped by to say Good Bye on Sun-Mon. My mom always regretted not being there when her mom passed, so I knew it was important for my mom not to be alone until God called her home. On Monday at 5pm, the crowd thinned. By 6pm my dad had to leave (too difficult to hear her breathing). The next shift was running late, so my husband had to run home to tuck our kids into bed. He called a friend to keep me company while he was away. It was during that time between husband leaving & my friend arriving, that my mom passed while I held her hand.

My mom & I spoke on the phone often. So many words we shared & when the the docs recommended everyone say what needed to be said (final words), I had none. Throughout the days I keep seeing things that I want tell mom about or all those little things that remind me of her. These days have been so long, so I want to call home to speak with her for comfort. Next week is her 80th birthday with Mother's Day soon after. It's unbearable to think that I will only have her memories & not her hugs. She was strong & in general good health. Just one moment changed everything forever.

My sister also went into ICU last week. She had a close call & had to fight with her docs so she could be released from the hospital to say good bye to Mom. She lives with my parents &, unlike my mom, is in poor health. My poor father is emotionally crushed & battling the same bronchitis. They were married young & just celebrated their 62nd anniversary in Jan. Mom was his world.

Please continue to pray for my family. DH & I have been blessed with friends/neighbors who have provided meals & childcare, so I could stay at the hospital. I will not be posting for a while, but I wanted to share my feelings, b/c I no longer have my mom with whom to share.
I'm so sorry to hear about your mom. I can't imagine having your world flipped upside down like that in a matter of a couple of days. You and your family will be in my thoughts & prayers.
 
Thank you to Kittydoc & Chickcrazed for helping make my daughter's 4H project possible. Terrific hatch. 8 out of 10 Bielefelder eggs hatched; 6 are female. 14 out of 15 blk/Lav Orpington eggs hatched. Broody is doing well.

I would give anything to go back to last week when a lot of my energy went toward planning for chicks. Life was normal & happy then. At 3:30am Fri morning, my mom stopped breathing for a few minutes. My poor father was there to witness everything. The paramedics revived her, but only lower brain functions like reflexes came back. Our family waited for days to see any signs of hope, but each day the brain activity changed & slowed. My dad, 3 children, 12 grandchildren, & 6 great-grandchildren miss this amazing woman. Many people stopped by to say Good Bye on Sun-Mon. My mom always regretted not being there when her mom passed, so I knew it was important for my mom not to be alone until God called her home. On Monday at 5pm, the crowd thinned. By 6pm my dad had to leave (too difficult to hear her breathing). The next shift was running late, so my husband had to run home to tuck our kids into bed. He called a friend to keep me company while he was away. It was during that time between husband leaving & my friend arriving, that my mom passed while I held her hand.

My mom & I spoke on the phone often. So many words we shared & when the the docs recommended everyone say what needed to be said (final words), I had none. Throughout the days I keep seeing things that I want tell mom about or all those little things that remind me of her. These days have been so long, so I want to call home to speak with her for comfort. Next week is her 80th birthday with Mother's Day soon after. It's unbearable to think that I will only have her memories & not her hugs. She was strong & in general good health. Just one moment changed everything forever.

My sister also went into ICU last week. She had a close call & had to fight with her docs so she could be released from the hospital to say good bye to Mom. She lives with my parents &, unlike my mom, is in poor health. My poor father is emotionally crushed & battling the same bronchitis. They were married young & just celebrated their 62nd anniversary in Jan. Mom was his world.

Please continue to pray for my family. DH & I have been blessed with friends/neighbors who have provided meals & childcare, so I could stay at the hospital. I will not be posting for a while, but I wanted to share my feelings, b/c I no longer have my mom with whom to share.

Congrats on the hatch! Every hatch has skewed very female so far which is awesome! I'm so sorry about your mother! There are no words that can bring comfort during such a time, but you were so blessed to have her so long and I am glad you got to be with her until the end. I hope your family finds peace and comfort from each other during this difficult time.
 
Thank you to Kittydoc & Chickcrazed for helping make my daughter's 4H project possible. Terrific hatch. 8 out of 10 Bielefelder eggs hatched; 6 are female. 14 out of 15 blk/Lav Orpington eggs hatched. Broody is doing well.

I would give anything to go back to last week when a lot of my energy went toward planning for chicks. Life was normal & happy then. At 3:30am Fri morning, my mom stopped breathing for a few minutes. My poor father was there to witness everything. The paramedics revived her, but only lower brain functions like reflexes came back. Our family waited for days to see any signs of hope, but each day the brain activity changed & slowed. My dad, 3 children, 12 grandchildren, & 6 great-grandchildren miss this amazing woman. Many people stopped by to say Good Bye on Sun-Mon. My mom always regretted not being there when her mom passed, so I knew it was important for my mom not to be alone until God called her home. On Monday at 5pm, the crowd thinned. By 6pm my dad had to leave (too difficult to hear her breathing). The next shift was running late, so my husband had to run home to tuck our kids into bed. He called a friend to keep me company while he was away. It was during that time between husband leaving & my friend arriving, that my mom passed while I held her hand.

My mom & I spoke on the phone often. So many words we shared & when the the docs recommended everyone say what needed to be said (final words), I had none. Throughout the days I keep seeing things that I want tell mom about or all those little things that remind me of her. These days have been so long, so I want to call home to speak with her for comfort. Next week is her 80th birthday with Mother's Day soon after. It's unbearable to think that I will only have her memories & not her hugs. She was strong & in general good health. Just one moment changed everything forever.

My sister also went into ICU last week. She had a close call & had to fight with her docs so she could be released from the hospital to say good bye to Mom. She lives with my parents &, unlike my mom, is in poor health. My poor father is emotionally crushed & battling the same bronchitis. They were married young & just celebrated their 62nd anniversary in Jan. Mom was his world.

Please continue to pray for my family. DH & I have been blessed with friends/neighbors who have provided meals & childcare, so I could stay at the hospital. I will not be posting for a while, but I wanted to share my feelings, b/c I no longer have my mom with whom to share.
 
Thank you to Kittydoc & Chickcrazed for helping make my daughter's 4H project possible. Terrific hatch. 8 out of 10 Bielefelder eggs hatched; 6 are female. 14 out of 15 blk/Lav Orpington eggs hatched. Broody is doing well.

I would give anything to go back to last week when a lot of my energy went toward planning for chicks. Life was normal & happy then. At 3:30am Fri morning, my mom stopped breathing for a few minutes. My poor father was there to witness everything. The paramedics revived her, but only lower brain functions like reflexes came back. Our family waited for days to see any signs of hope, but each day the brain activity changed & slowed. My dad, 3 children, 12 grandchildren, & 6 great-grandchildren miss this amazing woman. Many people stopped by to say Good Bye on Sun-Mon. My mom always regretted not being there when her mom passed, so I knew it was important for my mom not to be alone until God called her home. On Monday at 5pm, the crowd thinned. By 6pm my dad had to leave (too difficult to hear her breathing). The next shift was running late, so my husband had to run home to tuck our kids into bed. He called a friend to keep me company while he was away. It was during that time between husband leaving & my friend arriving, that my mom passed while I held her hand.

My mom & I spoke on the phone often. So many words we shared & when the the docs recommended everyone say what needed to be said (final words), I had none. Throughout the days I keep seeing things that I want tell mom about or all those little things that remind me of her. These days have been so long, so I want to call home to speak with her for comfort. Next week is her 80th birthday with Mother's Day soon after. It's unbearable to think that I will only have her memories & not her hugs. She was strong & in general good health. Just one moment changed everything forever.

My sister also went into ICU last week. She had a close call & had to fight with her docs so she could be released from the hospital to say good bye to Mom. She lives with my parents &, unlike my mom, is in poor health. My poor father is emotionally crushed & battling the same bronchitis. They were married young & just celebrated their 62nd anniversary in Jan. Mom was his world.

Please continue to pray for my family. DH & I have been blessed with friends/neighbors who have provided meals & childcare, so I could stay at the hospital. I will not be posting for a while, but I wanted to share my feelings, b/c I no longer have my mom with whom to share.

I'm so sorry for your loss. I know what it feels to have a parent that is such a large part of your world. My dad and I speak everyday. He was recently diagnosed with a severe lung disease that is progressing quite fast. I have been grieving and he is still with me. I fear that soon I will understand your loss. My heart breaks for you. Just remember that you had a relationship with your mom that many only hope to have. That is why she is missed so much. Her life was obviously full.
 

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