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[flyladyrocks]

Since we are sorta on the topic, @SallyinIndiana or anyone else with goats - what are your favorite goat books? Do you have some go to resources? Anything great for beginers?
The plan was spend this next year leisurely researching. With zoning changes looming now we are in read/cram/research RIGHT NOW mode. Of course that assumes there is a grandfather clause of some sort. I've got a stack of books requested at the Library. I love research and love to read so I find this fun. Love to have an excuse to sit outside with the chickens and read.

 

[daskhan]

Raising Healthy Goats Under Primitive Conditions Paperback

 

[daskhan]

theres this guy named thorn who lives in i think south carolina with his daughter briar they have a goat and they live in a house he built by hand with only an axe hes on a show called "live free or die" and as far as i know he uses only what he finds in the woods and his goat is happy so i figure goats dont need society or expensive feed to live happily

 

[bradselig]

theres this guy named thorn who lives in i think south carolina with his daughter briar they have a goat and they live in a house he built by hand with only an axe hes on a show called "live free or die" and as far as i know he uses only what he finds in the woods and his goat is happy so i figure goats dont need society or expensive feed to live happily

I'm not disagreeing with you, just giving another perspective. While they may survive on a poor diet, it doesn't mean they are thriving on it. Sure people can live on water and rice but for how long until their health starts to decline? Same goes for animals. I feel if you can't give them them at least a balanced diet then you shouldn't have said animal. As you mention these are animals are dependent of us to care for them (it happened when we domesticated them) so it is up to us to do so correctly.

 

[bradselig]

Thank you all for the kind words on my Bielie girl! At this point I think SallyInIndiana might be right about the hawk. I would have expected some sort of damage to the body but the stupid thing might have realized too late how big she is and how my angry 13 lb rooster wouldn't let him sit on the ground to feed. I have been trying to reach my neighbor on that side to ask if she heard any commotion, but I have had a little hawk do a couple drive by's on my chickens while I was out there, maybe he finally got lucky In slightly better news, I received some new babies yesterday, mottled and black split Breda fowl! They are a very food thrifty white egg layer that is known for their gentle and laid back personalities. They prefer confinement over free ranging and don't have a comb. They also have a tiny crest poof at the back of their skull, not large enough to obstruct vision but super cute. Here is a pic (found online) of the blue variety. I'm excited to see how they grow! Racin has also been hatching for me, Bielies and Silkied Ameraucana. I am looking forward to having some more cuteness around soon!

I have always love Breda! I'm not sure if she still does but Barb used to have some.

 

[browncow15]

Well for some reason I can't load pictures all of a sudden.

I have a broody with 6 CUTE chicks that hatched the other day. And I have a bator full of cheepers too.

I've had trouble in the past once chicks start hatching the rest of the eggs quit on me, if that makes sense. So with the eggs from my flock hating 2 days early I was worried about the BLRW I have from Brad not. Today is "hatch" day and I have three zipping right now and one out so hopefully the rest will get there! One zipped yesterday but is still just sitting there. I can see the chick still breathing but I'm afraid it's stuck

 

[browncow15]

Thank you all for the kind words on my Bielie girl! At this point I think SallyInIndiana might be right about the hawk. I would have expected some sort of damage to the body but the stupid thing might have realized too late how big she is and how my angry 13 lb rooster wouldn't let him sit on the ground to feed. I have been trying to reach my neighbor on that side to ask if she heard any commotion, but I have had a little hawk do a couple drive by's on my chickens while I was out there, maybe he finally got lucky In slightly better news, I received some new babies yesterday, mottled and black split Breda fowl! They are a very food thrifty white egg layer that is known for their gentle and laid back personalities. They prefer confinement over free ranging and don't have a comb. They also have a tiny crest poof at the back of their skull, not large enough to obstruct vision but super cute. Here is a pic (found online) of the blue variety. I'm excited to see how they grow! Racin has also been hatching for me, Bielies and Silkied Ameraucana. I am looking forward to having some more cuteness around soon!

Where do you find these cool breeds?!? Not that I have room for much more right now. I'm going to be in trouble if we decide to move!

 

[ellymayRans]

I may be interested if we don't decide to move!
I think @ellymayRans has a golden cuckoo rooster.

I do and love him. Mine is a cross from my Black Copper Marans and Golden Cuckoo hen to darken that egg color. My Marans are all dolls so...

 

[ChickCrazed]

Where do you find these cool breeds?!? Not that I have room for much more right now. I'm going to be in trouble if we decide to move!

I have been researching threatened breeds, I really wanted to support a breed on the verge of extinction and researched all of the breeds on the lists that I found. I went back and forth between Delawares and the Breda for their reputed personalities, but happened to find Breda chicks available now so I decided to try them. I also like that Breda tend not to be broody (I have enough of those to battle and won't be broody hatching), do ok with confinement and are food thrifty. I also don't have any white egg layers. I am excited!

Where are you thinking of moving to?

 

[daskhan]

I'm not disagreeing with you, just giving another perspective. While they may survive on a poor diet, it doesn't mean they are thriving on it. Sure people can live on water and rice but for how long until their health starts to decline? Same goes for animals. I feel if you can't give them them at least a balanced diet then you shouldn't have said animal. As you mention these are animals are dependent of us to care for them (it happened when we domesticated them) so it is up to us to do so correctly.

i didnt say they were just surviving the goat looked healthier then alot of farm raised goats. he deff takes good care of it... also fyi all the "balanced diet" you get from the store comes from a field it all originates from the ground its highly possible that he knows this stuff and gets it directly from the source possibly being even healthier then the store purchased stuff.im not disagreeing with you either but people have this false sense that store bought food or feed is somehow healthier then just getting the stuff from the "wild" its really not.i understand that the manufacturers of these product have the ability to have higher concentrations of chemical a or b or vitamin a or b but in reality this isnt good for people or animals the bodies have evolved to process only so much the rest goes out as waste you end up wasting more then you should. and when we domesticated animals they still ate naturally like go to this pasture or that we didnt make artificial feed or processed feed till maybe the last 100 years or less and ironically the animal health issues have began in the last 80-100 years.so believe what you want but ill go with the facts and believe that unless your raising race horses or other super beast processed feed is not better then natural.. now there are a few companies and i mean few.. that simply just add the natural stuff so its in one spot but its really not needed for instance my gfs sister has a few pets she feeds hay.. she must get it from a processed manufacturer! some of the feed has dried fruit added some dont but the over all point is we live next to a hay field.. she could simply just walk over there get it and add the dry fruit herself and save alot of money.


im highly aware that this is really just my opinion, but i had to get that off my chest natural/man made or "improved" war will continued to the end of time ( fyi im a hypocrite because i use man made/improved or processed everyday)