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[goodb]

Michiana-ers. I have a Barred Rock cockerel for anyone that wants him. He came from my local BigR who I believe got him from Cackle Hatchery. All I ask is that you be willing to give me constructive feedback on my setup.

PM me for discussion.

Anyone?

 

[Ol Grey Mare]

Anyone?

Can't help with the cockerel (no need of one and too far away), but are you offering the trade because you want hands/eyes on feedback regarding the setup or would it be things that you might be able to post in text and/or photos here and allow us all to take a look and offer feedback that way?

 

[SallyinIndiana]

Since we are sorta on the topic, @SallyinIndiana or anyone else with goats - what are your favorite goat books? Do you have some go to resources? Anything great for beginers?
The plan was spend this next year leisurely researching. With zoning changes looming now we are in read/cram/research RIGHT NOW mode. Of course that assumes there is a grandfather clause of some sort. I've got a stack of books requested at the Library. I love research and love to read so I find this fun. Love to have an excuse to sit outside with the chickens and read.

For deep research there is the Storey's dairy goat book
http://www.amazon.com/Storeys-Guide...keywords=storeys+guide+to+raising+dairy+goats

This one was ok but not really fun to read: http://www.amazon.com/Raising-Goats...TF8&qid=1434118711&sr=1-7&keywords=dairy+goat

Then the rest I got from the Johnson county library. I actually enjoyed the smaller books more as they were more at a beginner's level. Sure they may not have info on that 1 in 1,000 odd ball thing to pop up but I haven't needed that since I have a vet. Once you get a goat or even before you get a goat, find a vet in your area that will make house calls for goats. Talk to some horse people or I can pm you my vet's name. There is a fee for house calls but sometimes moving a goat in need of care is not good. Birthing for example, if the goat was struggling you would not really want to relocate it and have to deal with a stuck goat kid on route.
Then make sure you are good with needles as goats need meds and it saves house call fees to do it yourself.


As for letting goats just be free and not providing for their needs, maybe that works if the property is full of everything in just the right amounts and empty of the bad poison plants. But I'm thinking that a house rented to a young person and a few roommates is not set up to be a perfect natural environment for raising and caring for goats. And honestly as fast as their hooves grow they would need a lot of hard rocky areas to play in as well as areas for food. There is a lot that goes into caring for animals. And just because there is a small percentage of people who say they do it without buying anything or for very low cost, that does not make it the best way for everybody else.

 

[goodb]

Thank you for replying. Hands/eyes on. I'm planning to move the birds later this year and would like suggestions for my second build..

 

[SallyinIndiana]

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make BBQ chicken out of him. Day 1 process, Days 1-4 rest in a fridge or cooler with ice, Day 5 slow cook, pull apart, and add your favorite sauce.

 

[ChickCrazed]

Some additional AI information. Is the implication here that AI might be spread by hatching eggs as well? I thought those were fairly safe.


"Looks like the higher temperatures are not deterring AI from the Southern states. This was just posted on one of the other groups I belong to: I wanted to make everyone aware that we have a farm quarantined for Avian Influenza outside of Alexandria, Louisiana as of Wednesday.
The folks purchased some quail eggs off eBay and within days of their eggs being shipped, the seller's birds became sick: On June 9th the seller, who was in a non-affected county in Iowa, was confirmed with Avian Influenza.
The USDA obtained their shipping records, which are extensive (shipped birds and eggs to 75% of the country during the 21 day total incubation period for the virus) and began contacting the people and state vets involved. Birds they shipped to 4 locations in Arizona are positive for the virus and I hear their is a similar situation in California.
The Dept. of Ag visited the farm here on Wednesday and counted everything: They are most likely faced with losing their entire flock as well as the 168 eggs in their incubator.
So, to summarize: DO NOT purchase any eggs or live birds from states that have current Avian Influenza cases. I would personally not purchase them from adjacent states as well.
Our 2nd in command at the State Vet's office has asked that I call her this morning....I assume since I run one of the 3 shows in our state. I am also directly in contact with the folks being quarantined and will let everyone know what is happening as things unfold. RS Silva"

 

[flyladyrocks]

For deep research there is the Storey's dairy goat book
http://www.amazon.com/Storeys-Guide...keywords=storeys+guide+to+raising+dairy+goats

This one was ok but not really fun to read: http://www.amazon.com/Raising-Goats...TF8&qid=1434118711&sr=1-7&keywords=dairy+goat

Then the rest I got from the Johnson county library. I actually enjoyed the smaller books more as they were more at a beginner's level. Sure they may not have info on that 1 in 1,000 odd ball thing to pop up but I haven't needed that since I have a vet. Once you get a goat or even before you get a goat, find a vet in your area that will make house calls for goats. Talk to some horse people or I can pm you my vet's name. There is a fee for house calls but sometimes moving a goat in need of care is not good. Birthing for example, if the goat was struggling you would not really want to relocate it and have to deal with a stuck goat kid on route.
Then make sure you are good with needles as goats need meds and it saves house call fees to do it yourself.


As for letting goats just be free and not providing for their needs, maybe that works if the property is full of everything in just the right amounts and empty of the bad poison plants. But I'm thinking that a house rented to a young person and a few roommates is not set up to be a perfect natural environment for raising and caring for goats. And honestly as fast as their hoolves grow they would need a lot of hard rocky areas to play in as well as areas for food. There is a lot that goes into caring for animals. And just because there is a small percentage of people who say they do it without buying anything or for very low cost, that does not make it the best way for everybody else.

 

[flyladyrocks]

Some additional AI information. Is the implication here that AI might be spread by hatching eggs as well? I thought those were fairly safe.


"Looks like the higher temperatures are not deterring AI from the Southern states. This was just posted on one of the other groups I belong to: I wanted to make everyone aware that we have a farm quarantined for Avian Influenza outside of Alexandria, Louisiana as of Wednesday.
The folks purchased some quail eggs off eBay and within days of their eggs being shipped, the seller's birds became sick: On June 9th the seller, who was in a non-affected county in Iowa, was confirmed with Avian Influenza.
The USDA obtained their shipping records, which are extensive (shipped birds and eggs to 75% of the country during the 21 day total incubation period for the virus) and began contacting the people and state vets involved. Birds they shipped to 4 locations in Arizona are positive for the virus and I hear their is a similar situation in California.
The Dept. of Ag visited the farm here on Wednesday and counted everything: They are most likely faced with losing their entire flock as well as the 168 eggs in their incubator.
So, to summarize: DO NOT purchase any eggs or live birds from states that have current Avian Influenza cases. I would personally not purchase them from adjacent states as well.
Our 2nd in command at the State Vet's office has asked that I call her this morning....I assume since I run one of the 3 shows in our state. I am also directly in contact with the folks being quarantined and will let everyone know what is happening as things unfold. RS Silva"

 

[daskhan]

For deep research there is the Storey's dairy goat book
http://www.amazon.com/Storeys-Guide-Raising-Dairy-Goats/dp/1603425802/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1434118679&sr=1-1&keywords=storeys+guide+to+raising+dairy+goats


This one was ok but not really fun to read:  http://www.amazon.com/Raising-Goats-Dummies-Cheryl-Smith/dp/0470568992/ref=sr_1_7?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1434118711&sr=1-7&keywords=dairy+goat


Then the rest I got from the Johnson county library.  I actually enjoyed the smaller books more as they were more at a beginner's level.  Sure they may not have info on that 1 in 1,000 odd ball thing to pop up but I haven't needed that since I have a vet.  Once you get a goat or even before you get a goat, find a vet in your area that will make house calls for goats.  Talk to some horse people or I can pm you my vet's name.    There is a fee for house calls but sometimes moving a goat in need of care is not good.  Birthing for example, if the goat was struggling you would not really want to relocate it and have to deal with a stuck goat kid on route.

Then make sure you are good with needles as goats need meds and it saves house call fees to do it yourself.



As for letting goats just be free and not providing for their needs, maybe that works if the property is full of everything in just the right amounts and empty of the bad poison plants.  But I'm thinking that a house rented to a young person and a few roommates is not set up to be a perfect natural environment for raising and caring for goats.  And honestly as fast as their hoolves grow they would need a lot of hard rocky areas to play in as well as areas for food.  There is a lot that goes into caring for animals.  And just because there is a small percentage of people who say they do it without buying anything or for very low cost, that does not make it the best way for everybody else.

wasn't really thinking it was a small house in city I didn't see that part specially because if was told you couldn't have "live stock" withen city limits

 

[ChickCrazed]

It was a person posting in a facebook post, so no actual link to an article. SandHill is in IA, right? Are there any other hatcheries there? I wonder who it is and when it will hit the news.