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[Bawk]

Still concerned about the little polish. He has watery diarrhea now that he is back in the brooder. That was the one with pasty butt. Not sure what to do. He isn't happy being separated from the others either but they were pecking at his bald behind. More stress for him. Concerned. Anyone have such an experience?


This one is such a runt too.


Of course it is the weekend and hard to get help tomorrow. We have a funeral to attend in the morning thru early afternoon.


Ah.

What color is the poop, any blood? If they are still pecking Blukote will hide the bare skin, any redness.
I love polish, but the chicks I have had in the past, even my own were fragile. Mine did best on higher protein feed. Try offering cooked chopped egg, may help a bit also.

When he went back in the brooder, he went right to drink water then pooed watery diarrhea it was just clear with a spot of very light tan in the middle, no blood. I worried about cocci and online I read it can have blood or not.

The pasty butt was a mess just before that. Sorry if TMI but it was caked up thick and dried. That within a few hours. He doesn't like being separated, we don't have the blue spray with us and no cocci med just in case of that. We don't know what to get honestly.

I am concerned but not much I can do until after we are home again after a funeral tomorrow. Crazy time right now. Ah

 

[Chaneys Ranch]

Quote: When he went back in the brooder, he went right to drink water then pooed watery diarrhea it was just clear with a spot of very light tan in the middle, no blood. I worried about cocci and online I read it can have blood or not.

The pasty butt was a mess just before that. Sorry if TMI but it was caked up thick and dried. That within a few hours. He doesn't like being separated, we don't have the blue spray with us and no cocci med just in case of that. We don't know what to get honestly.

I am concerned but not much I can do until after we are home tomorrow. Crazy time right now. Ah
I understand, am sorry to hear of your loss also.
Not too much info at all, it helps to figure out whats happening! May not be cocci, but corid will help if it is. I think your little polish had just got chilled from what you have posted. Warmth will help a lot and companions too.

 

[Bawk]

 

 

Still concerned about the little polish. He has watery diarrhea now that he is back in the brooder. That was the one with pasty butt. Not sure what to do. He isn't happy being separated from the others either but they were pecking at his bald behind. More stress for him. Concerned. Anyone have such an experience?



This one is such a runt too.



Of course it is the weekend and hard to get help tomorrow. We have a funeral to attend in the morning thru early afternoon.



Ah.

What color is the poop, any blood? If they are still pecking Blukote will hide the bare skin, any redness.

I love polish, but the chicks I have had in the past, even my own were fragile. Mine did best on higher protein feed. Try offering cooked chopped egg, may help a bit also.

When he went back in the brooder, he went right to drink water then pooed watery diarrhea it was just clear with a spot of very light tan in the middle, no blood. I worried about cocci and online I read it can have blood or not.


The pasty butt was a mess just before that. Sorry if TMI but it was caked up thick and dried. That within a few hours. He doesn't like being separated, we don't have the blue spray with us and no cocci med just in case of that. We don't know what to get honestly.


I am concerned but not much I can do until after we are home tomorrow. Crazy time right now. Ah

I understand, am sorry to hear of your loss also.
Not too much info at all, it helps to figure out whats happening! May not be cocci, but corid will help if it is. I think your little polish had just got chilled from what you have posted. Warmth will help a lot and companions too.

Well he was hatched July 4 then we didn't get to get him until Monday. When we got him, he wasn't under a heat lamp. They said he was angry had been screaming and they got him two chicks from farm store to keep him company but it didn't help. I saw him trying to get under the wing of the two bigger baby chicks which were calm.

So I held him in my hand as soon as I got to the car... and he was warm then, calmed down and went to sleep.

He was active but a runt. It has been a few days before this started. I see the other polish is growing more feathers, this one still has more pin feather type on wings though more fuzz added. He may be a frizzle, time will tell.

But he had been active and doing well since being home, we have gently held the chicks a short while daily. That is how I noticed something up tonight, about 5 or 6 hours before,he was fine.

He really likes being held and goes to sleep. I hated for him to return to the brooder and isolated by a short fence, he tried to go thru the holes in it to be with the others.

First experience with baby polish chicks, they seem so fragile.

 

[Chaneys Ranch]

Quote:
When he went back in the brooder, he went right to drink water then pooed watery diarrhea it was just clear with a spot of very light tan in the middle, no blood. I worried about cocci and online I read it can have blood or not.


The pasty butt was a mess just before that. Sorry if TMI but it was caked up thick and dried. That within a few hours. He doesn't like being separated, we don't have the blue spray with us and no cocci med just in case of that. We don't know what to get honestly.


I am concerned but not much I can do until after we are home tomorrow. Crazy time right now. Ah
I understand, am sorry to hear of your loss also.
Not too much info at all, it helps to figure out whats happening! May not be cocci, but corid will help if it is. I think your little polish had just got chilled from what you have posted. Warmth will help a lot and companions too.
Well he was hatched July 4 then we didn't get to get him until Monday. When we got him, he wasn't under a heat lamp. They said he was angry had been screaming and they got him two chicks from farm store to keep him company but it didn't help. I saw him trying to get under the wing of the two bigger baby chicks which were calm.

So I held him in my hand as soon as I got to the car... and he was warm then, calmed down and went to sleep.

He was active but a runt. It has been a few days before this started. I see the other polish is growing more feathers, this one still has more pin feather type on wings though more fuzz added. He may be a frizzle, time will tell.

But he had been active and doing well since being home, we have gently held the chicks a short while daily. That is how I noticed something up tonight, about 5 or 6 hours before,he was fine.

He really likes being held and goes to sleep. I hated for him to return to the brooder and isolated by a short fence, he tried to go thru the holes in it to be with the others.

First experience with baby polish chicks, they seem so fragile.

I sent you a PM. IMO polish breed are more fragile as chicks. They are so pretty, friendly and fun! My favorite hen was a Silver laced, she went to @pbirdhaven with my tolbunt flock. They are not good with other breeds co mingling, just too docile.

 

[Mother2Hens]

Originally Posted by Bawk You're doing the right things… this is from "Chicken Health for Dummies" book, which I have, but I'm pasting this from a free online excerpt:

Pasty Vent
Just like grown-up birds, chicks with diarrhea have messy vents. Watery droppings accumulate around the vent, and the caked-up poop may even plug the opening. You may even see the back end of the chick bulge with the pressure of the backed-up poop.

A pasty vent isn’t a stand-alone disease; it’s a sign, telling you something is wrong in the brooder where you keep your baby chicks. Chilling or overheating is the most common cause of pasty vent, but viral or bacterial infections or poor diet can trigger it, too.

Adjust the temperature in the brooder area according to age of chick.

Here are the steps for dealing with a chick with a pasty vent:

Soak the pasted-up behind in warm, clean water for a minute or two to soften the gunk.
Do this in a warm, nondrafty place to avoid chilling the chick. Use clean water as warm as you would bathe in. Don’t soak the whole chick — just the butt. Gently peel away the caked droppings. It’s okay if a few down feathers come with the lump. If the dried poop is still very hard to remove, soak again.

Apply a little vegetable oil or mineral oil to the vent area.
Don’t use diaper rash cream containing zinc or other remedies you wouldn’t want the other chicks to eat, because they will pick at it! Promptly put the chick back in the brooder to warm up. Keep an eye on the chick because you may need to separate the chick from the others if they pick at the vent area.

Keep chlorinated water in the chick waterer. Doing so may limit spread of an infection in the group of chicks through the water.

So sorry you have a sick chick in the midst of a funeral!

 

[chick rookie]

I am so glad she is doing well! They are very inquisitive, and never grow out of it. My guys still dances trying to reach that leaf a foot too high, are always springing and jumping like kids. I love the spirit of the breed the most.


LOL yep and will peck at your eye too, trust me! Every thing they see needs a taste, they just need taught its not ok. If I have a turkey biting, I do a sharp "peck" with my fingertip on the beak, or head. This is what the mother turkey does to correct them, and a very fast method to correct an unacceptable action.
Wow. Thats gong to be a lot of paperwork! I keep a basic spreadsheet on hatches, but not really where the chicks go. Any one thats breeds and sells, definitely read this!

Well I guess I'll stick to hatching eggs I'm not going to do all that. Aint like I make a mint on selling chicks anyway. Boy watch the prices go up. Wonder if that applies to give-a ways too, need to reread it again.

 

[Bawk]

When he went back in the brooder, he went right to drink water then pooed watery diarrhea it was just clear with a spot of very light tan in the middle, no blood. I worried about cocci and online I read it can have blood or not. The pasty butt was a mess just before that. Sorry if TMI but it was caked up thick and dried. That within a few hours. He doesn't like being separated, we don't have the blue spray with us and no cocci med just in case of that. We don't know what to get honestly. I am concerned but not much I can do until after we are home again after a funeral tomorrow. Crazy time right now. Ah

[COLOR=8B4513]You're doing the right things… this is from "Chicken Health for Dummies" book, which I have, but I'm pasting this from a free online excerpt:[/COLOR] [COLOR=A52A2A]Pasty Vent[/COLOR] Just like grown-up birds, chicks with diarrhea have messy vents. Watery droppings accumulate around the vent, and the caked-up poop may even plug the opening. You may even see the back end of the chick bulge with the pressure of the backed-up poop. A pasty vent isn’t a stand-alone disease; it’s a sign, telling you something is wrong in the brooder where you keep your baby chicks. Chilling or overheating is the most common cause of pasty vent, but viral or bacterial infections or poor diet can trigger it, too.

Adjust the temperature in the brooder area according to age of chick. Here are the steps for dealing with a chick with a pasty vent:

Soak the pasted-up behind in warm, clean water for a minute or two to soften the gunk.
Do this in a warm, nondrafty place to avoid chilling the chick. Use clean water as warm as you would bathe in. Don’t soak the whole chick — just the butt. Gently peel away the caked droppings. It’s okay if a few down feathers come with the lump. If the dried poop is still very hard to remove, soak again.

Apply a little vegetable oil or mineral oil to the vent area.
Don’t use diaper rash cream containing zinc or other remedies you wouldn’t want the other chicks to eat, because they will pick at it! Promptly put the chick back in the brooder to warm up. Keep an eye on the chick because you may need to separate the chick from the others if they pick at the vent area.

Keep chlorinated water in the chick waterer. Doing so may limit spread of an infection in the group of chicks through the water. [COLOR=8B4513]So sorry you have a sick chick in the midst of a funeral! [/COLOR]

Thanks to both of you who replied. The chick was being bullied big. The other polish giving rough tugs on the wing. The Bravanter was being nice and the runt diving under it over and over so the Bravanter escaped, flew over the short isolation fence. So little peeping runt. I finally held him again, he went to sleep. Tried to move my hand, woke up. So I put the small towel folded over like a wing, he went to sleep, I carefully lowered him in the isolation area again. Hubby checked temp and it is 93 so fine. I left towel over him, 10 min later he was still asleep. He is breathing as stressed though. So I did all I could and need rest too. He is peaceful and sleeping. I noticed the other chickens are hardy and have small wing feathers, including the brabanter and other Polish hatched the same day. Now the two polish together, the runt was always smaller but looked even more small in comparison tonight and still has pin feathers on wings though he does have more fuzz than before. Possibly he could be a frizzle, no clue but he just isn't thriving. If he (or she) survives, will be named Miracle. Left in God's hands. The other polish is doing well with the rowdy Legbars which are hyper tonight. They kept bumping into the sleepy Brabanter. Thanks to those who responded. I get so attached.

 

[Mother2Hens]

Shell-less Eggs
Originally Posted by Indyshent

I've had a shelless egg or two in two seasons... but I'm starting to wonder if something might be wrong with one of my pullets. I've seen no fewer than five of them in the last week, and I think they're all coming from the same pullet. She doesn't seem to realize that she's even laying an egg because I'm finding them in really odd places (like under roosts), already split open and leaking everywhere

My English Blue Splash Orpington, Eliza, laid two shell-less eggs during the week of the 4th. They both looked like cracked eggs with thin shells. She dropped one while perching when I was standing there at bedtime! A few days ago, she laid one like this one pictured, which is more intact than the other two. I know that she gets plenty of calcium and a good diet. I am still attributing them to stress from fireworks since people still set them off after the 4th. Eliza has always been a Nervous-Nellie type. Other than fearing the sounds of bombs going off, she has acted normal. I hope your pullet is okay! Could she be stressed from all the rain? I'm attaching a chart from the Chicken Health book that has free excerpts online.



Gnats!
The other thing that has been stressing out Eliza is gnats buzzing around her face. She will run and hide. I took @chick rookie 's advice and found my bottle of Poultry Protector spray although I'm not a fan of the scent. Since a lot of advice about gnats, flies, etc. suggests using essential oils and/or vanilla, I added a half of a bottle of pure vanilla extract to water in a spray bottle. I keep it in the refrigerator for a cool mist, but it has to be reapplied constantly. I put drops of orange essence oil on the blades of fans (DH's idea) which worked pretty well. I bought a bottle of Buggins Natural insect repellant for gnats and flies, which contains several essential oils. The combination smells kind of medicinal. So after some additional research, I ordered this product online-- and it contains Patchouli !! I should've ordered it from amazon because it would be here by now.
'SKEETER SKIDADDLER Best Insect Repellent This link gives more info about ingredients for anyone interested. Toward the bottom of the page it mentions: Cedarwood oil is toxic for some dogs. The ‘Furry Friend Friendly’ version of Skeeter Skidaddler does not have the cedarwood or patchouli oils for dogs specifically.

 

[chick rookie]

My English Blue Splash Orpington, Eliza, laid two shell-less eggs during the week of the 4th. They both looked like cracked eggs with thin shells. She dropped one while perching when I was standing there at bedtime! A few days ago, she laid one like this one pictured, which is more intact than the other two. I know that she gets plenty of calcium and a good diet. I am still attributing them to stress from fireworks since people still set them off after the 4th. Eliza has always been a Nervous-Nellie type. Other than fearing the sounds of bombs going off, she has acted normal. I hope your pullet is okay! Could she be stressed from all the rain? I'm attaching a chart from the Chicken Health book that has free excerpts online.



Gnats!
The other thing that has been stressing out Eliza is gnats buzzing around her face. She will run and hide. I took @chick rookie 's advice and found my bottle of Poultry Protector spray although I'm not a fan of the scent. Since a lot of advice about gnats, flies, etc. suggests using essential oils and/or vanilla, I added a half of a bottle of pure vanilla extract to water in a spray bottle. I keep it in the refrigerator for a cool mist, but it has to be reapplied constantly. I put drops of orange essence oil on the blades of fans (DH's idea) which worked pretty well. I bought a bottle of Buggins Natural insect repellant for gnats and flies, which contains several essential oils. The combination smells kind of medicinal. So after some additional research, I ordered this product online-- and it contains Patchouli !! I should've ordered it from amazon because it would be here by now.
'SKEETER SKIDADDLER Best Insect Repellent This link gives more info about ingredients for anyone interested. Toward the bottom of the page it mentions: Cedarwood oil is toxic for some dogs. The ‘Furry Friend Friendly’ version of Skeeter Skidaddler does not have the cedarwood or patchouli oils for dogs specifically.

well shoot it didn't quote the right one... oh well The lime says barn lime too, so do ya think it would hurt my goats? Anyone ever use it in a goat house? I'm glad you posted that about the lime, I didn't know. I know farmers use it in fields, but didn't know I could use it in my coops. I need to get rid of lots of flys. How long does it keep the flys away? would it be ok with Juveniles?
Thanks again for posting it.

 

[Bawk]

The little runt rooster did not make it :-(