INDIANA BYC'ers HERE!

Hey, folks, happy new year! I haven't posted here in a while, but I have been keeping up on reading. Of course, when the topic of heating the coop comes up, I have to chime in.
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I, of course, am completely against heating the coop even in the projected temps that we have coming up. It especially makes me wary when someone says they're going to put a heat lamp in their coop. I'm gonna use big, bold letters here because it needs to be said:

There is NO WAY to make a heat lamp completely safe!

Bolt it down, wire it all together, dust it daily, and you still run the risk of the bulb shattering or the fixtures getting hot enough to ignite dust in the air. Ceramic emitter bulbs have been known to fall off and leave live wires exposed. This is a very real danger, especially with birds flying around and kicking up dust! Of all the things I am against in regards to heating a coop, I am most against the use of a heat lamp in any shape or form!

In regards to whether or not they need it, well, that depends. Adult birds absolutely do not need heat to start with, but if you've gotten them used to heat already, they're going to suffer to have it taken away. You need to have a backup plan ready if the power goes out or if something happens to that heater, because you'll have birds that cannot cope well with the cold on their own as a result. Be able to prepare a room with a heater in your house or garage for your cold-intolerant flock, just in case!

I have not heated my coop in many years, and when I did, I was foolish and stupid and I very nearly caused a coop fire. My girls have gone years, years without any source of heat and I have never lost a bird to heat under normal circumstances. Of course, you have to use common sense--I had a molting hen that was almost completely bare who could not take the cold. I still will not heat my coop, but rather, bring in the bird that is unable to handle the weather. Remember, huddling and moping around is normal for a cold day. Unbalanced 'dizzy-walking' and stumbling is not normal and should be addressed. You have to use your own judgement and observations in these cases.

M2H seems to have learned from me in regards to extension cord safety.
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If you must use an extension cord as I do, you need to make sure it is rated for outdoor use. You need to make sure it can handle the wattage that will be running through it. You should check the length of it regularly for any signs of fraying or deterioration. You should also dust both ends of it regularly to ensure dust hasn't gotten into it.

In regards to wet birds, I would much rather dry them off before roost time than put them in a freezing coop while still wet, even with a heat source. I would think that moisture that is in the coop under these conditions is going to cause more issues like frostbite. The goal is to have as little moisture in the coop as possible, so limiting ventilation in the wintertime is not good, either. Vents should be above the birds and none should blow directly past them to avoid them feeling drafts. There are also open-air coops in which one wall, preferably facing away from the prevailing wind, is completely open for ventilation. Lots of ventilation, even in the wintertime, will make a healthy coop overall. In other words, absolutely do not close of your coop's ventilation completely in the wintertime!


My plan for the cold weather is to make sure the girls have places to go out of the wind, especially at night. I also will use the 'buddy system'. Everyone's going to be perched with at least one or two buddies to share body heat with. I recall having temps like those predicted last year (look at that, I can say that now!), and my girls did just fine without heat in an uninsulated coop.


Well, now that that's out of my system, I bid you all a fond good-night.
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Pip'd, I agree with what you say. If they have never had heat, it's not a good idea to start, especially if the heat goes out. I've read multiple sources that say full grown chickens are fine even in negative double digits, as long as they are away from wind/drafts. I have no problem with ours in their Ft. Knox coop, the pop door is shut, and plenty of roof ventilation. I do need to make the water dish better to prevent freezing the next few days tho.
pipd ~ Good to see you back!
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LOL Seriously, it is, but where's the photos of Rangi et al?

pipd posted: M2H seems to have learned from me in regards to extension cord safety.

pipd ~ I'm not sure how to say this, and I sincerely mean no disrespect, but I learned about extension cord safety years ago before you were born.
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My point was that any electrical device has the potential to cause a fire, so proper precautions should be used.
That's why manufacturers put tags and warning stickers on devices and provide a manual. There is no "one size fits all" approach to raising poultry; avian veterinarians and other professional experts disagree on many issues. Regarding taking care of chickens during the cold weather, it's good to have your input and we welcome posts from others as well. Different opinions are interesting and thought-provoking.
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Originally Posted by jchny2000
M2H are you thinking bantam, or large frame cochin?
I am back and forth myself. DH wants LF and I love the bantams. Egg size is about the same!
He saw jsummers blue roo last summer and hounds me nonstop about that rooster!
I told him go talk to Jess! So I promised they are the next breed to add.

jchny~ Either one. If bantams lay close to the same size then I'd rather have bantams. I've always like large animals-- large cats, dogs, -- and my Jersey Giant! But, we fell in love with our little bantam Bonbon. And, like I mentioned before, bantams have little poop! lol I like blue-gray, lavender-gray, blue-black splash colors. So is jsummers breeding them? I put in an order with bradselig at one time for two guaranteed female chicks in those colors with one frizzle
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, but he ignored me. I guess he's into the modern birds now.
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No, silly, the reason all those warning stickers are on devices is from the lawyers. Without lawyers trying to bring lawsuits from one's own stupidity (like the hot coffee incident), we would be sticker free! I think of this every time I see warning labels. At least I know not to do what others have done, when I read those labels and instantly tear them off.

Yes, I am one of those who take off the label that says ''Do Not Remove".

Getting ready for the deep chill, and oh yeah, Go Colts!
 
FYI- Lowes company wide has decided to clearance their pet supplies at 75% off. Not all stores carry this assortment of pet supplies, mines does not. But it is supposed to include pet food, treats, and toys, flea and tick, and pet accessories. It does not include dog kennels, dog houses, pet doors, radio fencing, and promotional products.
 
Agreed, mine is rarely as cooperative. I have seen some good year end deals tho!
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and glad you joined our thread
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Lighting can have an effect on laying. Mine had stopped for about a month, and have just begun to lay again.
Sorry to hear of the lost chicks, it does happen often with dog! What breed are your chickens?
Thank you.
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Yeah, it was bred into this dog, she's part hound part lab and still in her puppy stage. Nothing is safe around her, but I honestly think it was curiosity on her part. I keep the girls caged in a 30 x 40 pen and they have a nice little house my grandfather built a few years ago. I was pretty dissapointed when all of them stopped laying, but thankful for the break. They were laying more eggs than we could eat. Oh, and I have 5 Australorp and 3 Rhode Island Reds, no rooster as I had a very bad experience as a child with one and have a young son, don't want a reenactment.
 
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Depending on the amount of snow we get on Sunday, I'm thinking of asking DH to take off work if his work does not close. I'm not looking forward to walking water out there every hour. By the time I got done watering all of the pens and warmed up it would be time to make another round. I already go out every 2-3 hours to try and avoid frozen eggs. I'm planning on frozen eggs for those days.
 
Depending on the amount of snow we get on Sunday, I'm thinking of asking DH to take off work if his work does not close.  I'm not looking forward to walking water out there every hour.   By the time I got done watering all of the pens and warmed up it would be time to make another round. I already go out every 2-3 hours to try and avoid frozen eggs.  I'm planning on frozen eggs for those days.
ive aleady talked to my manager and I am likely to switch my days off to get konday and tuesday off instead of wed and thursday. He seemed open to it thankfully. With work most of my chickens only get fresh water in the morning. By the time I fet home from work its typically dark outso chickens are already roosting for the night. They seem to be doing fine even though this isnt ideal.

This morning was horrible! The wind was blowing like crazy and practically blew all the snow out of my yard. The cochins were snowedbin so I set up a pen for them in the shed/main coop. The silkies are akk being out into the garage and tolbunt and ccl pairs in dog houses are going to the coop. Will probably add heat lamps to the silkies in the garage.

I also have a bunch of eggs I need to set in the incubator but trying to hold off until after the storm incase power goes out.
 
I'm getting my still air up and running this morning. my next staggered lockdown was to be tonight or tomorrow around noon. But it is a lone egg. I'm trying to hold off on moving it in case the power goes out. And keeping the humidity up is a pain with the heat kicking on all day.
 
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Thank you.
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Yeah, it was bred into this dog, she's part hound part lab and still in her puppy stage. Nothing is safe around her, but I honestly think it was curiosity on her part. I keep the girls caged in a 30 x 40 pen and they have a nice little house my grandfather built a few years ago. I was pretty dissapointed when all of them stopped laying, but thankful for the break. They were laying more eggs than we could eat. Oh, and I have 5 Australorp and 3 Rhode Island Reds, no rooster as I had a very bad experience as a child with one and have a young son, don't want a reenactment.

LOL about the re-enactment. Roosters can get aggressive, eh? Welcome to BYC.
Depending on the amount of snow we get on Sunday, I'm thinking of asking DH to take off work if his work does not close. I'm not looking forward to walking water out there every hour. By the time I got done watering all of the pens and warmed up it would be time to make another round. I already go out every 2-3 hours to try and avoid frozen eggs. I'm planning on frozen eggs for those days.
If you get a lot of eggs all the time, a few days of just throwing away some frozen ones isn't a bad idea. Seems sacriligeous, tho!

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Pip'd, I agree with what you say. If they have never had heat, it's not a good idea to start, especially if the heat goes out. I've read multiple sources that say full grown chickens are fine even in negative double digits, as long as they are away from wind/drafts. I have no problem with ours in their Ft. Knox coop, the pop door is shut, and plenty of roof ventilation. I do need to make the water dish better to prevent freezing the next few days tho.
No, silly, the reason all those warning stickers are on devices is from the lawyers. Without lawyers trying to bring lawsuits from one's own stupidity (like the hot coffee incident), we would be sticker free! I think of this every time I see warning labels. At least I know not to do what others have done, when I read those labels and instantly tear them off.

Yes, I am one of those who take off the label that says ''Do Not Remove".

Getting ready for the deep chill, and oh yeah, Go Colts!
Too Fast ~ Haha, I agree about the lawsuit aspect! People do need to use common sense and read the warnings and follow directions.

I also agree about Go Colts! My daughter has worked at Harry & Izzy's downtown for five years while attending college and during her "now that I've graduated, I'm figuring out what to do next" phase of her life. Anyway, Colts games bring big tips! I think Peyton Manning is still part owner of that restaurant.
 
Can someone tell me the best place to get coturnix quail hatching eggs in Indiana. I am very excited to use the incubator my Parents bought us for Christmas.. as first timers We will be wanting to hatch everything now.. My Chickens are doing awesome I am getting 100-120 eggs a week even in this awesome Indiana weather. I have not been on the thread a lot in a couple months due to hunting and cutting wood season.. But Hello to everyone I met and have spoken with before.
bradselig~ HappyHappyHappy's avatar says one hour north of Indy and he is listed in the member's list. Geez. haha You'd think that you have a million chickens to care for and that you work at Lowe's all the time!
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just teasing, of course! Btw, your hatch photos are a treat for those of us who don't get to experience that!

Originally Posted by bradselig
In the reptile community, radiant heat panels have become very popular. They are typically low wattage, supposedly don't get hot to the touch, and known to be one of the safest ways to provide heat to reptiles. I have never purchased one due to their price, but I don't see why they wouldn't work for chickens.

http://www.reptilebasics.com/rbi-radiant-heat-panels?mobile=0

bradselig ~ That's a helpful link! Those panels look a million times better than the "Cozy Legs" brand that I purchased. Cozy Legs is actually made for putting under an office desk to keep your legs warm, but it is marketed at some chicken sites (with the price jacked up). I ordered mine from Target (available online only). When it arrived, it was in the original box, no padding, no outer box, just an address sticker stuck on the Cozy Legs box-- to make matters worse, the UPS guys dropped it in between my outer door and storm door. I heard a big clunk, and there it was. Guess the UPS guy was in a hurry! lol Anyway, the wattage was low, but the big metal panel got too hot to touch, but if I held my hand out 6" away, it barely felt warm. The radiant heat panels from your source look much better, although pricier, but probably worth it.
 

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