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[hoosiercheetah]

@hoosiercheetah

Usually the "squishy" is "sour crop" which is a yeast infection. IF that's what it is, it can usually be remedied with a few adjustments.

I've been reading up on sour crop - can it go all the way across the bird's front? I'll keep looking for more info on how to diagnose.

The consensus treatment seems to be withholding food, ACV in the water, and slowly building back up to solid food with yogurt and such. Does that sound right to you? Any other recommendations?

 

[SallyinIndiana]

Yes thank you again!! I was tickled that you took the time to bring them to me... However, the EE is definitely freaked out in her little sectioned off area of the coop... She is pacing back and forth frantically, I hope she will calm down... It also sounds like she is crying a little... I have never heard a sad chicken before so it breaks my heart a little, not sure what to do...

Everything I have ever read says to keep them separated for a period of time... The little legbar is just chillin'... I think we will get along fine...

I was hoping to let them meet face to face tomorrow and pray for the best... And YES I want silkies badly... They are just the cutest darn birds I have ever seen... I'm just afraid if I get silkies, I will lose a husband!

I think he agreed to let me get 4 chickens, and we currently have 8...

My Dh agreed to 3 that 3 got off CL. But they were not red so I ordered a batch from the hatchery. A batch from Meyer was 25 chicks. Then I found 2 roosters on CL to match the chicks. That was all in the first 2 months of getting the first chick for my son's birthday. I have since sold or rehomed every one of those chickens as I'm converting over to Heritage chickens for my family. But I am raising up some hatchery chickens for others that prefer to get their chicken start with laying hens.
Ohh and the cost. I think Dh agreed to somewhere around $100 not counting the coop. He did specify that the coop we started with had to be shed style in case we did not keep the chickens. I have long ago past the $100 mark for buying chicks, quads, hatching eggs, and bird supplies. The reason Dh does not mind so much, He fell in love with the ducks of all things. I got 2 ducks to have eggs for baking. I now have over a dozen ducks, only 2 laying because DH likes ducks and their eggs.

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I had read on one of the threads about something causing water retention in the chicken. That is what I had LonelyPage... check for in her rooster. If it is some kind of sickness causing water retention, then MAYBE try antibiotics. After 48 hours, if there area no signs of improvement then you might need to become like Queen Victoria.

 

[kabhyper1]

I'm having a fecal ran on our alpaca today, if they come back with any parasites, say cocci for instance, that chickens can get, do you guys recommend me treating the flock as well as the alpacas? Do any of you know if cocci is species specific? I wanted to add, our flock runs with our alpacas, so they share the same environment.

 

[atrueb00]

We live in NE Indiana and just recently got our first chickens. We have 5 Buff Orpingtons, 4 Red Stars, 3 EEs, 2 Golden Polish (one a cockerel), and one Golden Laced Wyandotte (also a cockerel.) Why do I have an overwhelming desire to add "and a partridge in a pear tree" to the end of that? ;-) Hubby converted our kids' old bus shelter into a very nice coop and we have a decent sized run with plans to increase it eventually. Our chickens are only about 9 weeks old so no eggs yet. I really did not expect to enjoy them as much as I do. I was raised on a farm (as was my husband) but my dad was mostly a crop farmer so I didn't really have experience with livestock. We had a rooster who thought he was a cat when I was a kid but he just roamed wherever he wanted and lived in the barn. Until now, that was my total experience with chickens. My girls are learning the sound of my voice and come running when they hear me. Especially if they think there's a chance for a treat, lol.

I'm looking forward to our own eggs to go with all the vegetables from the garden. We will be eating well! We live on two acres on the back side of hubby's parents' farm and have a huge garden. I truly love knowing where our food is coming from.

I need to read back in this thread to "meet" all of you. I was glad to find some fellow Hoosiers.

Raising chickens right here in good ole' Grant county Indiana. We have 5 RR, one buff, and a silver lace wyandotte. We love our girls and spent allot of time and energy to make sure they have a safe, dry, warm place to live out their days. And of course we love the fresh eggs........

Welcome to the Indiana Thread!

 

[bradselig]

I'm having a fecal ran on our alpaca today, if they come back with any parasites, say cocci for instance, that chickens can get, do you guys recommend me treating the flock as well as the alpacas? Do any of you know if cocci is species specific? I wanted to add, our flock runs with our alpacas, so they share the same environment.

I'm pretty confident that coccidia is species specific.

 

[pginsber]

I'm having a fecal ran on our alpaca today, if they come back with any parasites, say cocci for instance, that chickens can get, do you guys recommend me treating the flock as well as the alpacas? Do any of you know if cocci is species specific? I wanted to add, our flock runs with our alpacas, so they share the same environment.

There are several species of Coccidia, and but typically coccidia are not animal species specific and are transmitted via direct fecal-oral transmission. Eating poop generally is a bad idea for a number of reasons, but in terms of coccidia, if you've got it in your area, everybody's got a chance of getting it.

ETA--the information I posted here was altered to be correct for any poor soul searching the BYC archives.

 

[Leahs Mom]

Now...I've read just the opposite on cocci. That the kind that affects goats doesn't affect chickens, for example...and that it is more species specific.

Bottom line, however, is that cocci is everywhere and it is the immune system/basic health of the animal that makes the difference as to whether they are "overcome" with it or if they are able to overcome it themselves.

Studies have shown for many years that the more worm and other medications that are given, the more it weakens the system of the host making them more susceptible to various infestations and illnesses. (Kind-of a back-firing of the accepted "prevention" practices, which is very sad but true, unfortunately.)

 

[pginsber]

I'm pretty confident that coccidia is species specific.

I agree with Brad, too--dependant upon the coccidia species. It's going to come down to the coccidia species if it's host-specific or not.

I can't remember what species of coccidia alpacas get and what species poultry are susceptible to.

Usually vets perform a fecal float to determine the presence of coccidia but I think a fecal smear culture is required to ascertain the species. Usually the smear is not performed, and the worst case
is assumed, and everybody in the household gets treated.

Sorry, I just don't recall it being totally black and white.

 

[pginsber]

Now...I've read just the opposite on cocci. That the kind that affects goats doesn't affect chickens, for example...and that it is more species specific.

Bottom line, however, is that cocci is everywhere and it is the immune system/basic health of the animal that makes the difference as to whether they are "overcome" with it or if they are able to overcome it themselves.

Studies have shown for many years that the more worm and other medications that are given, the more it weakens the system of the host making them more susceptible to various infestations and illnesses. (Kind-of a back-firing of the accepted "prevention" practices, which is very sad but true, unfortunately.)

Okay, okay--I gave in and researched. According to the Merck veterinary manual... "...Poultry coccidia are strictly host-specific"

Specifically, I found the following. Chickens are susceptible to nine coccidia species:
Eimeria tenella
E necatrix
E acervulina
E brunetti
E maxima
E mitis
E praecox
E hagani
E mivati

(Turkeys are susceptible to seven species and Quail are susceptible to at least four species)

Camelids are suceptible to four coccidia species:
Eimeria alpacae
E. lamae
E. macusaniensis
E. punoensis

There are no 2 species in common that affect both poultry and alpacas.
That seems like a flip-flop from what I originally said, but I can't be the person that perpetuates false info. I should've researched before I opened my mouth. Sorry.

 

[kabhyper1]

Well thanks guys! I have been seeing intestinal lining lately with the chooks, but no blood. No respiratory issues, everyone seems healthy. Stools are a little loose on hot days, but I'm fairly certain that is from the buckets and buckets of water being drank. The Alpacas are fine. We had one last week with a little soft stool and lethargy, and a low grade fever, but now are pretty sure he got overheated. The fecal is just a precaution. Thanks again for all the responses! And Pginsber for researching for me!